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Hidden Security Switch

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by MN-Maxims, Sep 12, 2015.

  1. MN-Maxims

    MN-Maxims St. Paul Minnesota

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    After reading about a members bike getting ripped off and destroyed by thieves, I have decided I need to outfit my driver bikes with a hidden kill switch. Something that is tied in to the TCI so it looks part of the wire harness that would be hard unless you really knew these bikes they could never figure it out. Looking for some creative ideas on how to make it so they could not get it running and easy enough for me to activate when and if I have to leave my bike unattended.
    I understand if someone wants it bad enough they would haul it away but for the common bust the ignition and ride away types is what I am looking to prevent.
     
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    if any of yours have the auxiliary "headlight" that you took off or don't use. that switch would be just right.
    or even if it's still used, i think it would work
     
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    pull the main fuse?
    buy a caliper lock.
    you could hook a switch into the sidestand switch the ignition would think the side stand was always down if they got it started it would stall when put into gear.
     
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    MN-Maxims St. Paul Minnesota

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    I thought of one of those U shaped bicycle locks to put around the forks and through the front wheel, but that's just something I have to haul around.
    I don't want to remove the seat or anything. Would be cool to have a proximity switch that a small magnet on my keychain could reach.
    The auxiliary light switch is an idea because its part of the bike and looks normal.
     
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    MN-Maxims St. Paul Minnesota

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    It's kind of ironic that I'm trying to make it not run when it's trying to do that on its own!
     
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    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

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    I have it on good authority from an ex-bike thief that this is an awesome deterrent.

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    A hidden switch will be found, because a thief that wants your bike will be watching you and will see you use the switch.

    Any commertial product (like that remote fob) will help, but will also be known about and can be bypassed if the thief is knowledgeable enough to look for it.

    If you really want to use a hidden switch give some serious thought to Polock's idea. It's unobtrusive, an existing part of the bike, and with some practice it would be difficult for someone to notice that it must be used to start the bike. You'll want to use it for switching a relay though.
     
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    I highly doubt that many bikes are stolen by being ridden away. It's far easier and quicker to just roll it away.

     
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    WOW! That is brave!
     
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    MN-Maxims St. Paul Minnesota

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    Tick,Tick,Tick...................KABOOM the C4 and Napalm just blew. Don't you wish!

    JPaganel was this here in the cities this happened?
     
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    MN-Maxims St. Paul Minnesota

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    K-moe that grip lock is nice. High visibility and small enough to keep,in a pocket.

    The aux light switch is a good second to the grip lock. I need to check the wire diagram to see how to tie in a relay to break the ignition circuit.
     
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    theft is either you were targeted very little you can do about that.
    or theft of convienace . make you bike harder to steal, lock the steering so you can not roll it away to start it. , that grip lock looks good. the caliper locks are small fit in your pocket, or a small fork bag.
    make sure when you install the new fuse box you can not access the main power and/or the ignition fuse with jump leads,
     
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    IIRC, that's Brooklyn, NY.
     
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    Yea if I lived in NYC I would worry about that same thing. If your stuff is not lag bolted down it would be gone if you lived there. Three guys and an old van that was not the first time that crew did that. That bike probably was in hundreds of pieces within an hour or so and anything with a serial number at the bottom of the Hudson River an hour after that.
     
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    Yeah, they sure look well practiced.
     
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    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

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    They'll get caught eventually. Snatching with a van isn't subtle at all. OF course if they were clever they'd work on Wall Street.
     
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    Looking at the video that van had no front license plate. The van drove past at a good speed and then backed up while the dudes inside cased the bike. Then they hung there for awhile. Pretty bold in broad daylight with people around besides
     
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