How do I mount this

So here is the fairing I got




I took off the bracket that was attached




but I can't seem to get any of the mounting points to match up, am I missing another part of the bracket?
when I hold the bracket up to the bike it seems that I have a good 1/2 inch on each side of the frame and bracket.

I have taken off my head light and aux. does anyone have any photos of how this attaches to the bike.

 

Don't quote me on this because I don't know the bike & am just going on what's being sold as fairing brackets on ebay, but I think you maybe missing this part http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/81-83-YAMAHA- ... 5d419aba26

Being sold from same bike as this is off http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/81-83-YAMAHA- ... 58a2611a03

As I say don't take this as 100% until someone can confirm/deny but I do think its missing a bit as I can't see how you'd bolt it on with just those holes :/

 

Nothing a bit of duct tape cant fix

 

Botcher, what happens when it rains or the sun cooks the glue off the tape?





(Should use zipties as well!) :twisted: :wink:

 

ok, so I thought something was missing, but how the hell would that flat piece bolt onto the other bracket.

 

I'm thinking about it

 

ok, I just look at the other photo and I see the bracket is not flat....lol

 

lol no worries, but wow doesn't he want a lot for it considering it's a bit of stamped steel plate with a few captive nuts!

Looking at pics, that plate bolts onto the frame above the oil cooler & then the fairing onto that...

Maybe worth watching that one but posting a wanted ad "borrowing" his pictures to show which bit you want?

EDIT-: not my pic (from an old for sale ad on here but very nice pic) this is the fairing fitted

 

it does look nice, I would still have to find the lowers
I found a photo without the lowers and I think it still looks good.

now I have to decided if its worth the time to find the bracket or just sell the fairing

 

Or you could make a bracket really, it doesn't have to look exactly like the original & it's fairly simple folded sheet metalwork (and you could get by without captive nuts)...

Definitely keep it now you've got it, looks nice yeah I've seen them without lowers too and looks right still... Plus it'll make a difference to comfort on longer rides I'd wager.

 

When I tested the Aux. Sport Fairing on my 750; I never took it off.
At highway speed its worth its weight in diamonds.

It would be worth having a sheet metal fabricator make you a sturdy set of mounts.
Bring what you have and you won't need too much more to mount it in a sturdy manner, ... possibly better than Yamaha did building the bike.

 

Can't help on the mounting, just a comment on the fairing vs. the fairing with the "lowers."

I remember this whole "package" from back in the day (when it came out.) The 750 Seca didn't do all that well as a "pure" sport bike despite Yamaha's initial attempts to market it as a high-tech rocket. Too high-tech, not so much rocket. But a damn nice bike nonetheless.

So they re-invented it as a sport-tourer, one of the first. The fairing and bag/trunk equipped bikes were on the showroom floor, all decked out. It wasn't just a catalog thing anymore.

The bigger Yamaha stores had them in various "stages" of "touring-ness" the full monte with trunk, bags and fairing with lowers; or a more "sporty" package with just the upper fairing and bags, no trunk just a luggage rack.

I remember looking at a "full boat" red one parked next to a silver one with just the upper fairing and bags and thinking how much better the less-fairinged silver one looked. I'm not sure if it's because the lowers hide too much of the motor, or spoil the lines of the front of the tank, or what.

But honestly; the fairing itself is neat on that bike but I think the lowers detract from it. Kind of like they were trying too hard; an afterthought.

 

Yeah, I gotta get, or make......., one of those for myself, too. My fairing came the same way--the tubular steel mount is there, but the cross-piece is not.

If anyone has a real clear pic showing exactly how this is mounted, it would be a great help!

dave fox

 

I'm going to get a bracket made for the fairing mount, it will be the easy fix.

Thanks for the suggestions

 

hogfiddles, While I was looking through pics researching to work out the bit that was missing I didn't see anything showing the way it was bolted on but to my mind it looks like the 2 bolt holes for the cross-piece would be fixed via the horn bracket bolts/holes (again don't quote me on this, but it makes sense to my mind from fig. 4.14on page 166 of the Haynes manual. Bolt 11/Bracket 10)

That said, I'm unsure where the single bolt hole would attach to but perhaps there's a bolt hole to match above the horn bracket holes? Hopefully that's of some use until someone can get a decent picture of the mountings...

 

I haven't been able to find any photos or directions for the full front fairing, I did find the directions for the rear trunk and side bags and it references the stabilizer bar that attaches to the front and it says to follow the directions from the front fairing.

there is two threaded holes in the frame that seems like it would match up to the bracket but you are right, no third hole. There is a ring/loop connected to the frame right where it looks like the top hole may line up.

I can post a photo of the front later.

 

Here is the frame



I found a photo of the complete bracket

 

I didn't get the "missing bracket" when I picked up my fairing, but since I'm taller than average, I mounted it an inch higher and forward.
I used 2 short pieces of 1 1/2 inch angle welded directly to the frame.
I'll send pics if needed.

Just found this -

http://www.xjbikes.com/Forums/viewtopic ... art=0.html

 

I found the installation for the vetter fairing on seca 750, not quite the same but gives a much better idea of how it all fits together. (page 3)

https://www.dropbox.com/l/xemx6N6TBO7vKgeJCxEpRb

Now its time to start making a bracket

 

i have a steering stabilizer on mine that i think was part of the fairing package
there's a picture in my gallery of it mounted, if some other pictures of that would help just let me know.
those 10mm captive nuts in there were to hold something big.

 

seca brackets
here's that bracket and what goes in that middle hole

 

I talked with Len Chacal the other day, and if I got things straight in my head...........

there were some xj750 secas that came with a tourpack (was it just '83 for those?), and the ones that came with that package from the factory had the steering stabilizer which connects to the bottom of the forks. It is a round unit with a 6 bolts around it. The thing bolts t the bottom of the fork, and when you turn it by hand you can feel the 'drag' or 'resistance'......There is one 'tang' on the stabilizer that sticks out towards the back of the fork that normally is centered to point straight back.

Now, on those particular bikes, there is also a small bracket that is welded to the front of the frame, just about 1.5" - 2" below the headtube. Once the fork is installed on the bike, the 'tang' that I referred to earlier centers itself in the small welded-on bracket. The steering stabilize will rotate slightly, and stop at each side of the hole then the 'drag' becomes the 'stabilizing' force.

I THINK that the fairing bracket (the wide flat one that was originally the one that was in question and started this thread) top hole lines up with the stabilizer frame-mount tip/point. Not sure of that yet, though......

If you need to see the stabilizer, or the frame welded-on small bracket, let me know. I'll take a pic for you.

I do not have that bracket on any of my 82's. It's only on the 83. Unfortunately for me, that 83 has no title so I can't use the frame. I've stripped that one down. BUT, I'm going to cut that off and save it for future use.

Dave Fox

 

The 'seca bracket' photo that Polock listed finally worked for me. That 'wing' that bolts into the top hole looks similar to the top triangle mount for the windjammer that I had on my 650. So, if that's the case, it should fit in the middle of the triangular hole in the frame, and spread itself between the two downtubes by anchoring itself across the back of them, probably sitting above the horn brackets.

I'll have to take these pics out to the bike and frames and start 'sperimentin'.

dave fox

 

I think you are right about the 'wing' and the windjammer mounting.

I'm working on fabricating a bracket based what we have found, just wish I could have found a photo of the bracket and mount actually mounted to the frame.

And thanks for the help, it's kind of fun to try and guess how the hell these things fit from 30 years ago.