Idiots

It's D-bags like this that give bikers a bad name.

 

It's D-bags like that PLUS the "weekend warrior" crowd that make me proud to NOT be a "biker."

Personally, I am not a "biker." I've ridden street bikes for 45+ years, owned literally dozens of motorcycles and worked on many more but I am a Vintage Motorcycle Enthusiast. It p*sses me off that I was forced to buy a black Tourmaster because that's the only color the tall sizes come in. My leathers over the years were always brown.

I'm sure those oxygen thieves would be glad to have you call them "bikers." As would all of the attorneys, accountants, dentists and others that dress up in the whole "uniform" to ride their dealer-supported bikes on sunny Sundays.

Which is why I'm glad I'm not a biker, nor would I care to be known as one.

You might get a kick out of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mknP9XvHhuM

 

preppy suv boy broke one guys both legs, dam near killed another guy, he will never walk again, mowed down 4 bikes. with no care for who he hit, he had brakes,, ya buddy shouldnt have slowed down like that. but really? this range rover (Deleted) uses his (Deleted) range rover (with his kid and wife) in the 2500 pound battering ram to mow down bikers, i'm sorry but if i was there i woulda did alot more damage to this low life (Deleted) than what they did. i'm seriously mad about this,

 

oh one more thing preppy boy suv (Deleted) had a cell phone he coulda called the cops instead of mowin down people, honestly what do you think fellow bikers are gonna do in that situation? i dont blame them at all i think thats called fleeing the scene of a accident? i would love to run into preppy boy suv (Deleted) and show him what bikers are all about. this really pisses me off

 

Davec,

The driver of the SUV did call police, as he was being surrounded by people following the initial accident. Fearing for his, and his families, life he fled. Once a person fears for their life, or that of others, deadly force becomes a legal (and justified) option. Don't try to defend a bunch of asshats just because they choose to ride motorcycles. the "motorcyclislists" could have very easily chosen to stand aside while the driver and the cyclist who was hit exchanged information....handling things the way adults are supposed to.

http://nypost.com/2013/09/30/bikers-attack-suv-after-driver-rams-riders/

BTW, for all the "bikers" knew at the time, the guy in the SUV could have also been a motorcyclist.

 

65 thousand hits on youtube and all the comments are for poor poor suv driver, that mowed down 2 bikers almost killing them, fleeing the scene, and hitting 4 other bikes, (fleeing the scene), and the bikers get charged? notice that the bikers turned themselfs in. why they getting charged for keepin a peice of shit from fleeing the scene and vehicular attempted murder?

 

Dave watch the beginning of the video again. What he is driving makes no difference. One of the "bikers" (gang members) pulled in front of the Range Rover while he was in the middle lane minding his own business.

Then the ass decides to brake hard, thinking it would be a cute move, and unfortunately the guy ran into the bike. Sure he slowed down, then stopped to figure out what to do and called the police. And because these types of "bikers" (lets face it, they're really a gang) have 0 respect for others, he then did what I would do. He made an effort to protect himself, wife and child got the (Deleted) out of there.

Collateral damage was inflicted on more of the "bikers" (gang members) in the process which is too bad.

 

I would guess because they escalated the problem wll beyond what was necessary. Video, and a plate number, is all that's needed to have the police deal with the issue. Swarming a vehicle and attempting (2 times, and then suceeding) to pull the driver out, followed by beating him, is never an acceptable response to an accident.

Had the rider who was impacted by the Range Rover bothered to keep his hands on the throttle, leave suffficient space between himself and the SUV, signaled his lane change, and not been riding like a complete ashat, the incident would have never happened at all.

http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/the-footage-that-the-nyc-bikers-didnt-want-you-to-see-1435594427/1436603736/@orlove

 

im sorry k moe but you get run over by a suv and tell me its all your fault, and really these guys are just like us, they wanted to stop him, ya one guy hit him but he deserved it, dudes gunna be in a wheelchair for life, is that fair? he had brakes, he feared for his life after he (Deleted) ran over and vehicular attempted murder, no doubt he was scared, these bikers did what anybody would of done, this guy needs to be charged with attempted murder, and vehicular assualt causing bodily injury, he should never be allowed to have a liscense again.

 

Really?

Did you watch this video?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ukdkgLYYbw

And you'll see at about 22-25 seconds in, the idiot instigating a confrontation, then braking hard. He, and they, deserved what they had coming.

Guess you don't know what it's really like down here around NYC with all the gangs that ride motorcycles?

 

If I find myself in the same situation surrounded by bikers trying to pull me out of my car because they decided to slam the brakes in front of me I would do the same thing.

Sorry Dave I will not agree with you just because the bullies ended up with the short end of the stick.

 

Clearly, the SUV-guy was forced into a "Fight or Flight" situation.
He chose to flee.
Gong ... gong ... gong ... gong!
General Quarters.
Sound the Collision Alarm.
All ahead flank.

I don't blame him one bit for getting his wife and child out of harms way.

 

Dave, here's a comment from this page ( http://jalopnik.com/watch-nyc-bikers-at ... 1427168165 ) of a "motorcycle riding" guy that was in his car the when they were terrorizing other innocent motorists.

UPDATE: Reader 505Turbeaux claims to have been on the road with this group of bikers and reports that they were riding like squids before the video began.P

I saw these guys yesterday, the bikers, and what a pack of assholes they were. Splitting lanes on the highway at speed (70mph between 2 cars), cutting people off. They had me boxed in so I couldn't get out of an exit only lane so they could get off. Not saying they deserve to be hit, but they had it coming.

I had my blinker on and was handsignalling I needed to get out of the exit only lane. everyone kept passing on the left to cut me off in front of the exit, 4-5 of them flipped me off. I tried rolling slow but they had no inkling of how to ride well. I ride myself, and this was just heinous.

I see this kind of shit that they pull all the time down in my neck of the woods.

 

I agree so the punks on two wheels got what they asked for... wait you meant the other way around?

I rest my case.

"My friend, the panda will never fulfill his destiny, nor you yours until you let go of the illusion of control" - Oogway

 

im stuck on sayin it wasnt right, this is a tuff topic, i hope suv boy gets his due justice, he couldve stopped and jumped out to see if dude was alright,, but nope,, he chose to run over another biker and 4 more bikes,, then run away like a p****, then hide behind the cops. we are all just people, and if a biker gets hurt its all about that,, not about runnin over another guy and mowin down 4 bikes then runnin away,

 

Not everyone will get out and help a fallen biker when you see a gang of his buddies running to smash up your window. You would have to be severely retarded to open up the door and step out to face that orgy.

Clearly his self-preservation reaction took over.

 

ya i hear ya im pickin up what yer layin down, but still, i wouldve hit brakes and loved it, i wouldnt of ran over them,

 

I wouldn't have been caught dead in a SUV in NYC, but it's easy to play an arm-chair expert

 

lol ya lets end this post, im still pissed off did you see his mom cryin? he didnt deserve to get run over, its called brakes, nobody deserves that,

 

he should be charged with attemped murder

 

the guy who was swinging the helmet was on a blue bike, the guy who got side swiped the on that off ramp thing was on a blue bike, same guy? i could see him being upset. 80% of the gang didn't know what was going on, they were just following the guys in front of them. that girl had some short shorts.
notice how quick they learned not to get in front of the SUV and hit the brakes? the SUV didn't have to play monster truck over all those bikes, he could have just took his foot off the brake and bumped them out of his way.
if the SUV driver was a a real bad guy he could have taken out 90% of the little boys on the bikes, parked the truck and walked away

 

I would rather take a punch in the face rather than RUNNING OVER a biker. That guy meant more harm to the bikers, than the bikers meant to have on him. If this is his "fight or flight" situation, he is selfish. Im saying this because I really doubt, had he pulled over right away, that any harm would have came to him, let alone his family.

 

Scum on a bike is still scum.
Anyone who defends this crap needs to have a damn good think about what they support.
You deliberately intimidate and try to frighten people and then act surprised when they are frightened and intimidated?
People aren't much different to dogs in reality and a frightened dog is much more likely to bite you.
If I stop and 20 thugs surround my car with my family in it I will run over anybody to get them to safety.
Whatever happens when they are safe is fine before that nothing is off the table.
Oh and any moron who brake checks a 2.5 tonne vehicle with his 200kg motorcycle is a fool and will be removed from the gene pool eventually,hopefully before he/she gets to breed.
Seriously you defend this behaviour? bikes with no plates? riding all over the road?
We are all going to be tarred by this crap because there are enough people who think riders really do behave like this,so next time your listening to the news listen to the sub-text.
It won't say it outright but there will be definite tone of "What did you expect" or "No great loss" while reporting a fatal accident involving a M/C and you know what it won't matter who was at fault because it was just a dirty bike rider.
Like Polock said if he wanted to take them out he could have spread bikes and bits for miles.
F#$^k Me you people defend this shit.
No wonder the world gets suckier every f#$%ing day.

 

Davec, you are an idiot. There were no innocent riders in this bunch. Every one of them knew there were going to be laws broken and stupidity involved. The fact that it went further than some of them may have wanted is irrelevant. They gather with the intent of causing mayhem. Lock every one of them up for rioting and malicious mischief at the very least

I see no one(DAVEC) mentioned the fact that the whole reason the idiot break checked the SUV was because they were calling 911 to report the erratic behavior of the school of squids, or that when the break check went wrong for the future greasy spot the other assholes in attendance started beating on the SUV and tried to slash the tires.

Yeah, I'm going to get out of my vehicle to help the felons at that point, right.

Act like an animal, get run down like an animal.

None of the bikes had registration tags displayed and there were more than a few not street legal bikes involved as well.

There are at least 5 different videos of these ass hats running around terrorizing the highways and side streets. Racing on the sidewalks, purposely blocking traffic both on and off the freeway and taking over a convenient store gas lot blocking access and reving their engines for effect, etc.

The world would be a better place if every one of them rode off a cliff.

 

There is such an insane pile of stupid in this video...

First off, we don't really see what started it. Brake check is a reaction to something, but whatever it is, it's an insanely stupid reaction. 400 pounds of bike and squid intentionally putting itself into the path of 2 tons of car is just Darwin in action. This stupidity is continued once they stop the guy.

The driver panicked, and I can easily see why. He has a damned lynch mob on all sides and he has his family in the car. A couple of people happened to be in front of his car when he panicked, and it sucks to be them. Nobody forced them to be there, and nobody forced their moron buddies to scare the living shit out of the guy.

What I would consider to be a more appropriate outcome would be if the driver had a gun and shot the people actually assaulting him rather than running over the dorks who just happened to be parked in front of him. However, this is the gun-free NYC, and you have what you have.

 

luvmy40, you are exactly right. those a**hats had it coming. They purposely surrounded the SUV with the intent of pulling him out and beating him. he did the right thing by trying to leave. If someone did that to me and my family I would have run over them too.... then I would have put it in reverse......

 

There's a lot of information that's missing which precludes me from judging, but I will say that absolutely no leadership or self-control was shown by anyone in those videos. That, to me, is the saddest part of all.

 

Kilted, IMO, the guy in the car did no wrong. The guy brake checked the car... big surprise he got rear ended. Then a mob of people surround him and start messing with his car with his family inside...

Hondahack and K-moe posted other videos that show more than that edited footage, I suggest you watch those if you haven't.

what would you do? I know what I'd do....

 

Anybody stupid enough to get in front of a SUV and hits the brakes, deserves an a** full of bumper. A man has a right to defend himself and family, I would've done similar.(If they pi**ed me off, probably would've done worse. We have open carry firearm law here now.)

 

I don't know about other places, but in CO our self-defense laws apply to you when in your vehicle, so if someone is coming to your car with a weapon, you have a right to deadly force.

The pics from other news sights show non-bikers assessing what looks like the INITIAL accident scene before the bikers started attacking, so possibly the driver was trying to handle it legally first.

I'm just glad Davec doesn't live in the US anywhere near me. I sometimes drive an SUV with my kids, and don't want him brake-checking me.

But, don't get me wrong. When I'm on the XJ, you better believe I am doing the brake-check hustle. Every day in my morning commute, as soon as I get next to another guy on two wheels I give him the nod and brake check the car behind me. And he ain't no biker if he don't jump off his ride after i am hit and start bashing windas. 'Caus that how we roll round here. :wink:

wtf?

 

Road rage is a very bad thing.
Someone mentioned dogs earlier . . . this was certainly 'pack mentality' in action.

I'm going out on a limb and going to say that Davec migrated to Canada. I have never met a born and raised Canadian that would spew such rubbish.

 

Ha! I didn't want to say it, and stereotype our northern bros, even though its a nice stereotype. But I was thinking the same thing!

He scares me, and I live in the wild west.

 

I haven't seen everything that lead up to the pack hunt. There are usually points along the way where a level head and grown up behavior can soothe and calm squids, who are empowered by deindividuation; it's easy to break that. I'd have to see everything in order to say who is or isn't blameless.

From the point I have seen, it's the usual entitled squid gang behavior. Them against the world, quick to anger and to throw a fist at the "preppy" (to use Dave's term for a guy with a job and SUV). Honestly, I'm tired of that kind of behavior, and I won't defend it. I would say anyone who takes on a car like that will lose, and it's their own fault for it.

Then again, like Fitz I'm not a biker and don't have that "us against the world" attitude some have, and don't feel more of a man because I can exude ANGER. I'm a human being in a large and interesting global world who happens to like vintage motorcycles. Never seen an episode of "Sons of Anarchy" because it holds no interest for me, but I do like "American Pickers" when they find some old bikes! :lol:

 

If I'm dumb enough to try and keep any vehicle from moving by standing in it's way, then getting run over would be my fault; particularly if I was part of a gang who were intimidating the driver prior to (and following) a minor accident. Law enforcenent and military don't even try to use ther bodies to keep a vehicle in place, and they have the legal authority to detain a vehicle, where civilians do not (there are a few exceptions, traffic accidents on public roadways not being one of those).

 

+1 If they threated my family, I'd run all of them over and let God sort them out.
And let's keep in mind that these individuals seem to make a habit of questionable behavior.

 

Take a trip to Afghanistan...do a break check in front of a U.S.M.C. convoy...please report back your results...I personally know more than 50 of my brothers (including me) who'd have driven a tank over those scum-bags to protect that man and his family. Pick on someone your own size. The pussies were on motorcycles!
They got what they deserved...

 

It almost sounds like his posts were an attempt at trolling. Makes no sense otherwise...

 

I have a son and a wife, and I'd have done donuts. Trolling would clear things up in this craziness.

 

Theyre lucky none of them died. Their behavior obviously was wrong and triggered this guys fight or flight. Im sorry but if youre trying to smash my windows in and my wife and kids are in the car we have a problem. Driving a 75k +/- suv im surprised this guy didnt have a .45 tucked in the glove box.



http://youtu.be/Zdor_-hsm0w

 

Davec can barely write the English language here..... Has he ever heard of structured sentences ? Geez.....what a complete idiot......he must had relatives in NYC.....he needs to join this gang & brake check a Mack truck....GONE....Wiped from the gene pool....he wins top prize for the Darwin Award.....

From what I understand , this guy & his family are from San Diego, but were vacationing in NYC.....I bet he never goes back & I don't blame him....

 

It's New York City. The only way to get a gun permit there is to kiss the mayor between the buttcheeks in the Macy's front window.

 

I am a biker and I do ride daily. I do also ride on group rides in particular with fund raising activities etc...
I am absolutely appalled at the behaviour of the idiots involved in this incident. Have a good look a tthe whole incident andthe way that the biker slows down and play chicken with the driver ...have a look at the other biker on the other side of the vehicle and what he does. They were always going to get caught out. Anyone with half a brain would understand that two wheels against four...you ain't going to win.

Again being a daily biker.... I have absolutely no issue with what this guy did...in fact I thought he was quite generous. If I had my wife and kids in the car and was obviously threatened by a bunch of zealous morons.....I would do exactly the same....if not more.
I see that he has now received major lifelong injuries from being dragged from his car and beaten up.
I also see with dismay that the authorities are also considering charging him with trafficoffences relating to the speeding and running over the bikes.........Are they for real.....where else in the world could this possibly happen??????

 

You are the Low Life Brother. Grow up and Get a life

 

This thread has been mirrored on several other forums I belong to

Lets get back to the debate about pods! :lol:

 

LOL glad i'm not the only one that noticed that!!!!

 

Lol

 

from what I have seen of the video, it appears to me that the biker who was hit was indeed being reckless. what ensued thereafter was a gang mentality. that poor biker in the hospital should not have put himself in front of that suv either. I have heard claims that he was trying to "help" the suv driver. but I am fairly certain that is just conjecture.

this is a sad turn of events for all involved. I saw an interview with one of the bikers today that was saying the suv driver was driving like a maniac. I think if I were to roll up on a scene like that and see the suv run over a biker, I would think he was driving like a maniac too. it seems to me that this guy didn't see what started the whole incident.

an interesting article I read on cnn today about the unfortunate fallout caused by d-bags on bikes and how it effects the rest of us...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/03/opinion/c ... index.html

CN

that "biker wannabe" moniker under my profile name doesn't properly characterize me at all. it would be great if it said something more along the lines of "new xj enthusiast" or something like that. I certainly don't "wannabe" a "biker" like those "Hollywood stuntz" a** clowns!

 

I've read that the biker in the hospital had his license revoked earlier in the year, and it wasn't set to be reinstated until 2017.

 

lol! the never ending debate.

And Davec was probably drunk. That would explain a lot

 

all the more reason why he has no one to blame but himself. not having a license means he shouldn't have been there in the first place.

CN