Morey's oil additive

Ever since I started using Morey's "heavy duty oil stabiliser" I have been trolling the net looking for semi authentic information about the product.

Despite finding heaps of "reports" and dubious "findings" I found enough peoples opinions that the stuff might work and began using it. Following is my own anecdotal findings, not based on scientific analysis, or advertising, just one cynics conversion...

I own a Yamaha XJ650RJ, 1982 motorcycle with 140,000kms on the clock. The bike does not blow smoke, and is in a good state of tune. I have always used 95 octane petrol. Prior to using Morey's additive I used Castrol Activ4T, a very good oil, changed oil and filter every 5000kms, and would top up the oil perhaps twice in that time. And never used additives in either fuel or oil.

Over time vibration in the handlebars was getting bad, after 30mins at 100kmph, or 60mph, both little fingers on each hand would be numb. I decided to try "morey's oil stabiliser"

The change was quite dramatic, at 100kmph there was no vibration in the handlebars anymore, in fact it was not until I was going 130kmph that vibration started. The bike seemed to rev more freely, I no longer had to change down a gear to pass a car, and when throttling off, engine braking was less noticeable.

I contacted a local magazine asking the resident mechanic for advise, he suggested I stop using an additive, and simply start using an oil of greater viscosity, ie: 20w 50, as additives were more hype than fact.

To test his suggestion, and determine if I was imagining changes in the bike, I drained the oil and refilled with Penrite 20w 50. The change was immediate, vibration was back at 100kmph, the bike felt slugish, and passing cars required a down change.

After two days I dumped the oil, and refilled with Morey's and Castrol Activ4T, just like before. I am not a person easily persuaded by products that promise the world, but if it can make my 28 year old bike feel and ride like it was new, then I am converted.

Have many people used this product?

cheers, Gareth

 

http://www.moreysoil.com/products.cfm

http://www.lucasoil.com/products/displa ... =2&catid=6

Sounds alot like "Lucas" oil products. You add just 20%
I add this to my commercial lawn mowers. The additive isn't affecting your clutch??

http://www.lucasoil.com/products/displa ... 7&loc=show

This /\ is the stabilizer I have used.

 

I imagine they might do this same, but concerning the clutch? no problems! But be aware that my old XJ650 does not pull stumps or do burnouts, perhaps for a very torquey bike there might be probs.

cheers, Gareth

 

Mrblackstock, I was just glancing at the Morey's site...
"Reduce internal friction & engine wear"
GET RID OF IT! No wonder your engine is revving more freely and you're getting less engine braking, your clutch is slipping. How long have you been using the additive for? You might still have a good clutch in there if you switch out to a MOTORCYCLE oil designed for a wet clutch. All of those things you feel without the additive, that's the actual bike talking to you.

 

I understand what you are saying about wet clutches and anti friction additives, but I have ridden the bike almost daily for 5000kms, with NO problems.

If the clutch was slipping I would know, as it is the bike pulls like a school boy throughout the rev range.

Before I added the additive the bike @ 100kmph would sit on 4500 rpm, since Morey's there has been no change in that.

Before Morey's the bike needed a long run up to reach 130kmph, now it gets there easier and quicker with revs to spare.

I am still dubious of all the claims companies make about products, but this one works for me

cheers

 

I sent the company an email asking the clutch question. I think that it may affect the clutch over time if not immediately. Personally I hesitate to use any addatives in the oil of bikes sharing transmission and crankcase lubricants.

 

I just had a look at the back of the Morey's bottle, and it lists motorcycles as safe to use the additive with.

Alot of my friends use additives, mostly Nulon. Most of the additives I have seen on autoshop shelves are listed as safe to use with wet clutches, and I have never heard of clutches slipping amongst the people I know.

I would be interested if the email you get back from the company supports wet clutch use or not...

cheers

 

I will post the reply when it comes.

 

Here it is, May 30th and still no reply from Morey's oil products. I'll give it a few more days before writing the product off. If they fail to respond one would assume that there product is not suitable for wet clutches.

 

Why?

Modern oils (the correct ones) work without issue; there's really no need to "re-engineer" the oil.

Personally, I don't dump ANYthing except motor oil in motors, period. Sure, there are different oils for different applications, but if you're using the correct product, additives should be wholly unnecessary.

Don't waste your money on "snake oil."

 

I agree Fitz. My father is a mechanic on Rare Bear, a HIGHLY modified racing airplane, they put pure Mobil aviation oil in that engine. If it's good enough to run around pylons at almost 600mph, it's good enough for my XJ.

 

People of course have their different ideas about consumer products, fair enough.

However, I always treat company product information with a grain of salt, both established companies, and smaller "additive" companies.

I am glad so many people trust implicitly what companies say, as I imagine there are no companies that would lie, or deceive, especially not the really big companies...

The wet clutch argument is getting old, it exists but cannot be applied across the board covering all motorcycles.

I too know a few mechanics, and they all have different opinoins on everything!? From oil filters to tyre pressures, maybe they are humans afterall, not "borgs"

So at the end of the day, I am loving this product, it works for me, and like in many cases, "he who dares wins"

Blackstock

 

Hi Blackstock, i notice you use Castrol 4T, i changed from Yamalube to Castrol 4T this winter and have suffered a lot of condensation build up, i never had a problem with the Yamalube. our winters day varies by about 15deg (can be frost in the morning and 15C riding home). Do you have this problem in winter with 4T?

 

G'day,

How do you mean condensation? I have never had the issue with a bike. Do you mean water in the oil? I guess if the engine breather was blocked it would cause condensation.

The castrol 4T works well for me, I often ride to work at worst in 4 degrees and comw home in weather around 26 degrees, no issues.

And as an update on the Morey's...no issues yet! i have covered thousands of miles and the bike is using less oil, pulling hard and the clutch is fine.

It seems the doom sayers may be wrong on this one.

cheers

 

For the real oil on using Morey's products in your
bikes oil/fuel
moreyoli.com
moreyoil.co.nz
moreyoil.com.au
under testimonials
or email for the real answer
not someone's best guess
andy@moreyoil.co.nz