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Righthand mirror removal

Discussion in 'XJ Modifications' started by Deadulus, Aug 1, 2008.

  1. Deadulus

    Deadulus Member

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    Hi all....in everything Ive done, i have NOT had as much frustration as I am having with trying to remove the righthand mirror.

    I realize its supposed to be reverse threaded...the problem Im having is with what I think is a locknut, i dont have wrenches as thin as it seems i need to hold one while turning the other...

    Id really like to install my brandnew Chacal provided master cylinder so I can finish my brakes.

    And WHY did Yamaha have to do that? sigh
     
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    RickCoMatic Well-Known Member

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    Make sure that the PO didn't have aftermarket Mirrors -- Non Yamaha threaded base.

    That would mean that you have to extract the Mirror from an adapter.

    The adapter isn't reverse threaded!
     
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    Some replica (and original) Yamaha style mirrors have these interesting GROOVES in the facets of the locknut, that make it LOOK LIKE two thin nuts, when it's not. If you're trying to turn these "nuts" against each other it ain't gonna happen. Take a close look, you may be dealing with one big nut. <I so did not say that...>
     
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    No....really....the doctor says Im O.K. now *twitch*

    Ok...ran out and tried pretending it was just one big GROOVY nut.....can only get about an 1/8 turn out of it......and I started rounding corners.
     
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    Small pipe wrench on the shaft just above the locknut. Cheater pipe on wrench.

    And a new mirror.
     
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    Would be a shame to do that...they have got to be original...they have the Yamaha tuning fork emblem on them.....
     
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    Since you got it to move just a bit start hitting it with PB!Blaster and lightly tapping it with a rag-wrapped hammer or a chunk of 2x2 board.

    Spray
    Tap for a few minutes
    Spray
    Work gently with wrench (may actually WANT to use a small padded pipe wrench on the nut to avoid rounding)
    Leave it overnight

    Repeat daily until it loosens.

    I had to do this on a lug nut on a VW that someone had painted the rims while mounted. The paint had wicked in and made the rust bond VERY strong. I broke the socket on a good cast trucker's 4-way tire iron bouncing my fat butt on it trying to loosen it.

    Used the PB and an air impact set to about 25 lbs of torque to "rattle" the nut repeatedly over a period of about 8 days before it came loose. Tried heat/ice cold water/hammer/other stuff before I settled in for the long ride.
     
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    Robert Active Member

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    Once you get the mirror out, be sure to use some anti-seize on the threads when you reinstall the new one. It will keep you from having to fight this battle all over again down the road.
     
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    Allow me to provide some ignorance... You're removing your master cylinder... And the mirror is attached to the old one?

    I guess you're planning on installing the old mirror on the new MC... N/M
     
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    Hi Ease...that was the plan...until the old master cylinder started coming apart in my hands whilst trying to remove said mirror.

    Soooo....a quick run into the local Honda shop (eerily I have better luck with parts with them than the local Yamaha shop) I found a set of mirrors that I like, so Wednesday when the Yamaha version of the righthand mirror comes in, Ill have a set of mirrors that will allow me to adjust how far out they go.

    No more dropping my shoulder to see out the mirror....
     
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    OK--now I feel like one big nut myself, and I'm surprised no one figured/pointed this out---I just went and looked at all the Yamaha mirrors in my garage (4 sets total) and all of them, including the repros, have the aforementioned "grove" (or just notches) in the RH nut, to INDICATE THAT IT'S GOT BACKWARD THREADS. D'oh...
     
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    Oh by the way...the mirrors only cost $29 for the pair....they had some in there that were $29 apiece....

    And Big......isnt that diabolical of Yamaha? Confusing us poor (well me anyway) owners, making us think we have to figger out how to turn one half of the nut one way while turning the top half the other??

    I hate skinning knuckles when there is absolutely no reason too.....
     

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