xj info

I found this pdf online and thought i would share. here is a dropbox link...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4aehftk6u7263 ... ion%20.pdf

CN

 

Copyright infringment is a bad idea.

 

I don't see a copyright anywhere and I am not profiting from it.

CN

 

you may not see one, but I can pretty well bet that there is one on the original that the pdf's were taken from...............

 

Those are dealer tech bulletins; many of them can found on-line at the end of the Yamaha parts fiche for the affected models.

 

A copyright symbol does not have to be present on a document for a copyright to exist. Copyright law (in the U.S.) applies to any work at the time the work is first produced (even your personal journal is a copyrighted work the moment you lay pen to paper). Unless a license for free reproduction was given by the copyright holder it is illegal to make copies (in any form), unless the document is old enough that it is in the public domain, or you are copying an excerpt for a purpose that conforms to the fair use doctrine. Making and distrubiting copies of a document without permission is illegal, even if you don't make a dime. Buying an original copy of a document is fine, if you buy it used. The only reason I mention it is that the forum owner could be held partally liable should the copyright owner choose to persue legal action (though they likely won't), because of the link being distributed via the forum.

 

Interesting...on one of the pages, Yamaha instructs the dealer to submerge the upper half of the carb rack in diluted carb cleaner. Regardless of it being diluted, wouldn't it compromise the rubber bits and seals? Wonder if there was an actual issue back then with those components prematurely wearing out?

 

I believe the carb cleaner in question was ok for use on rubber. otherwise it would not be recommended for use.

CN

 

the documents in question were freely distributed three decades ago. I am fairly sure the copyright Nazi's are not going to bring the massive hammer of justice down upon the xj forum. if the forum owner or any of it's moderators feel otherwise, they are welcome to delete this thread. until then, unclench man!

CN

 

Upon reading again, it states to fill the pan "until the level of the mixture is 1/4 inch below the butterfly shafts, otherwise the seals on the shafts may be damaged by the mixture".
Definitely not safe for rubber...but I guess at least the throttle shaft seals would be safe, although 1/4 inch is a little too close for comfort in my book.

 

I didn't read them all; but I believe they do NOT include the entire "saga" of Yamaha's fight with rust in the gas tanks due to the bikes' exposure to salt air with empty tanks while sitting on the docks.

I saw the one that said it superseded the previous bulletins; but those previous bulletins aren't there. They're a hoot, taken in order.

Remember, those bulletins were intended for dealer mechanics; not DIY'ers like us.

 

Power up kit for the turbos was interesting. Saved to favourites. Thanks for posting!

 

I noticed the Seca 900 is NOT on the list for the "stale gas" remedy !!

And Yamaha gives 18 MINUTES credit for a job that says "after a half hour, repeat" - - LOL

 

Very interesting read. Thanks.

 

Uhhh... I don't think an ancient technical bulletin is a concern, not in the way that a PDF of a James Patterson novel might be.

Copyright infringement is only an issue on a profit-making item. If these were intended for Yamaha repair shops, then I don't think they were ever 'for sale'.

Doubtful that someone will sue noob for lost profits on free info :wink:

 

You have to love what love what ColoradoDan has on his response. BIKE CHECKLIST, HOW TO LINKS F*ing VALVES.

 

You seem to be incapable of conributing anything of value. Do something to make yourself happy, and move on.

 

now there is something you and I can actually agree on!

CN

 

I agree with you about that last part, but people have been sucessfully sued for distributing copyrighted media without permission. I don't like it when my stuff is "borrowed" without being asked, and sometimes that's all it takes for a company to make an effort to protect their stuff.

I never intended this to become a debate. There have been instences of copyrighted material being shared on this, and other, forums. I deal with copyright law on a regular basis as part of my job, and part of one of my hobbies (photography). I was hoping to share the knowedge about the potential for trouble, so trouble can continue to be avoided.

I'll agree to disagree, and move on

 

Copyright Infringement is a crime.

Behold the Copyright Notice which appears on a Stand-alone Page in the front of Genuine Yamaha Workshop Manuals.



Those who have PIRATED EDITIONS of Yamaha Manuals will likely find that the Copyright Notice Page with the ALL RIGHTS RESERVED declaration and Copyright Symbol [ © ] have been deliberately deleted by the alleged criminal wrongdoers.

It's NOT OK.

 

So let's review what I said on Jan 7........

"you may not see one, but I can pretty well bet that there is one on the original that the pdf's were taken from..............."


dave

 

Do you think Yamaha would really give a stuff about the copy right on this material its not like they are loosing sales. I don't think the market for old motorcycle repair manuals is that big is it.

 

my point exactly. it seems that the only people with their panties in a bunch about the copyright on 30+ year old documents are those that don't even have a vested interest in the material. unclench fellas, this is a forum where information is shared freely. and nobody cares.

CN