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Cylinder Juggs Seperating from Crankcase

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by Franz, May 5, 2020.

  1. Franz

    Franz Well-Known Member

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    The juggs are sticking when nearly off the engine on one of the twelve studs for holding down the cylinder head but l put some penetrating oil down the problematic one and leave it overnight. I am pleased getting parts separated with no damage.
     
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    you've got the patience, you will succeed
     
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  3. Franz

    Franz Well-Known Member

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    More progress. That sheathing was jamming some of the cylinder head holding down studs.



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    Awesome
     
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    We even had electricity, laddie.
     
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    Please put some thing under the cam chain to stop it picking up crud form the engine casing
     
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  7. Franz

    Franz Well-Known Member

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    Good idea there is a small amount of it fell into the crankcase when l removed the cylinders. Going to replace both chains when l split the cases. I will get it meticulously clean before reassembly.
     
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    Ah Ok - though it might only have been a tope-end rebuild - as you were!
     
  9. Franz

    Franz Well-Known Member

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    The starter chain was hitting the crankcase so l decided to change it, the plastic guide, starter clutch and cam chain. Bike ran great but l had tiny pieces of plastic too a warning sign of the guide going to break up.
     
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  11. Franz

    Franz Well-Known Member

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    Next task removing head to jugg studs. I am going to very carefully drill them square taking as much metal out without damaging the threads. Then l will use a hammer and punch around the periphery of the stud to close the opening and move the remaining stud away from it's threads so l can get acetone ATF mix down between the threads. Let it soak a day or two before trying to remove it.

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    Franz Well-Known Member

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    Hi everyone not going as planned. Unable to remove damaged studs on cylinder head. What size of drill and tap should l use to refurbish thanks?


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  13. Franz

    Franz Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking of an M6 helicoil but I am not sure if there is enough metal to drill out a 5.2mm drill bit.
     
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    Franz, if I were you I'd be taking a 6-pack of beer, the equivalent of US $ 100 in cash, and that set of jugs to my local machine shop and strike up a deal to have that done properly.......lot cheaper than replacing a set of jugs!
     
  15. Franz

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    Yes I am a Carpenter so I am better leaving this alone. I know your right Chacal thanks that is what I will do.
     
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    Yes in your situation if budget allows, take to a pro. This motor really had some corrosion huh?
     
  17. Franz

    Franz Well-Known Member

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    Worst engine I ever worked on from a corrosion point of view I mean vashtsdaytona. I just don't like giving up on things lol I am tenacious and I fix most things I work on. But it is a great engine mechanically and I need to make sure the head gasket seals so I am going to get the engineering shop to do it, I am not in a rush won't be on the road till 2021 at least.
     
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    When I don't have the tool, and the tool is so expensive that there's no real prospect of buying one for the odd occasional job, I grudgingly pay the bloke with the tool to do it for me.
    Stings a bit, but it's not often.
    That applies to spark erosion equipment most of all, if that's what it needs.
     
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    Yes true l don't mind paying to get it sorted just my local place was shut. Once the spark erosion removes a broken bolt does the old thread remain or does it need re-tapped?

    What l have also noticed is that there is no wear that l can feel between the top piston rings and the top of the cylinders. There is a slight roughness due to carbon which l removed with a bit of wood. Don't know for sure what mileage my engine has done but the cam chain tensioner is fully extended.
     
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    cam chain guides? good bad or ugly
     
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    The guides look good. I have not checked the bores with instruments but l can still see cross hatching on them.
     
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    if the guides are good i wouldn't worry about the tensioner
     
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    Some photographs. Perhaps the guides are worn?


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    The chain is worn with the curve in it in the picture.
     
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    8 mm stud repair by shop to cylinder head. Engineer thought 8mm were better. More progress.





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    Need stepped M8 to M6 ones now to go through head gasket.
     
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    Need stepped M8 to M6 ones now to go through head gasket. Or open up the holes in the head gasket with a Dremmel to take the 8mm studs.
     
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    WOW is that motor dirty :)
     
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    Yes it is l am splitting the cases but the dirt will be removed first. Don't want that in the oilways and bearings. Head is fine cam journals etc perfect.
     

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