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A new project, the abandoned xj650RJ

Discussion in 'Hangout Lounge' started by ecologito, Dec 2, 2012.

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After looking at the picture what would you do?

  1. Replace the engine and transmission

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  2. Replace only transmission

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  3. Sell the bike

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  4. Take it to a shop and they can do it in no time

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  1. bigfitz52

    bigfitz52 Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Find one. They're cheap. I'll add a pic later, I gotta go make dinner.

    Yes, there is a difference in carb bodies by position, because of the throttle linkages and the drilling (or not) for the fuel distribution pipes.
     
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    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

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    Also find yourself a set of JIS screwdrivers. What look like Phillips head screws are not; you'll end up stripping the screw heads out. An impact driver will come with bits that fit JIS screws better than any Phillips ever will, so you can use that if you can't get a JIS screwdriver set.
     
  3. hogfiddles

    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    body 1, bodies 2 and 3, body 4. those are the three kinds you need.

    Yup, impact driver. LOVE mine, gonna get a GOOD one sometime, though!

    Dave F
     
  4. ecologito

    ecologito Well-Known Member

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    Santa has arrived!!!

    I finally got my parts bike here. It looks it a whole better shape than the "original" bike. Both side panels, rear cowl (no full rear fender). The carbs look really clean on the outside and to my surprise PO butchered the airbox and added pods (they are not very visible because they are behind the side panel and the ends tucked into the butchered box.

    The camera didn't like the light setting last night but I will take plenty of pictures later on.

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  5. bigfitz52

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    Len carries JIS screwdrivers or you can find them on the innanet.
     
  6. ecologito

    ecologito Well-Known Member

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    Ok so here are the pictures of the "donor" bike. Now I have plenty of parts to finish my first project... wait... do I have enough parts for two bikes?

    This one looks better than the one I listed on my signature.
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  7. ecologito

    ecologito Well-Known Member

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    So I am trying to figure out what works and what does not on the parts bike. Something that obviously couldn't is the tachometer, it has no cable to the engine, luckily I have one from the box'o goodies I picked from the bay.

    The airbox is trash since the PO decided to go with pods but didn't bother to take it out.

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    There seems to be some electrical problem that once again the smart PO decided to get rid of by bypassing the fuse and unplugging something, I need to figure out what it is.

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    I ordered a key for the ignition switch so can figure out what else works and what does not.
     
  8. bigfitz52

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    It looks like he's unplugged the safety circuit. Or part of it anyway.

    Do you have a FACTORY book?

    If not, PM me with your email address so I can get you 650 Seca-specific wiring and cable diagrams and pages from the dealer assembly manual that will help immensely.
     
  9. ecologito

    ecologito Well-Known Member

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    Thanks a lot man, I do have a service manual for the xj650G I don't think it's the same since I can't find the wires that I have on my hand on that wiring diagram.
     
  10. hogfiddles

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    Eco,

    I'll try to get a good look at mine in the next couple of days to see what's there.

    As far as the fuse,that's pretty obvious.....the label tells you what the fuse would be for. The clips were probably falling apart, and instead of risking having the bike BREAK DOWN due to a faulty fuse clip, the previous owner decided it was better to risk having the bike BURN UP due to a faulty fuse clip. Lucky you found it first. :)

    Dave F
     
  11. ecologito

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    I figured it out the disconnected plug is for this side stand I guess that the previous owner didn't care about driving away with it on or the sensors wasn't working
     
  12. hogfiddles

    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    That was going to be my first guess, but I wanted to compare wires on your's to the wires on mine.

    Dave F
     
  13. bigfitz52

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    MWAHAHAHAHA...

    Out of the 3 of us, my 650 Seca is the only "unmolested" one (ok, lightly molested. Battered and abused, thankfully not "repairificated.")

    I guess I should dig it out of the back of the garage and get some new batteries in the camera. Nothing beats a good "peeker" when you're doing a resto.

    I need to get busy on it anyway.
     
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    I don't recall that being the right color for the side stand, I'll have to look at mine and see if I can see where it goes.

    Dave F
     
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    Good strike on the carbs! I did the same for my 550s; I have a good, rebuildable spare rack and a "parts" rack and didn't pay more than that for either. $30 ~ $50 for a whole "parts drawer" worth of carb parts is just good sense. (Ask Dave.)

    The instruments? I'm pretty sure the "cans" are the same as on the 650 Secas. If you don't need all of them, I might need a speedo can. Not sure though; I might do later, white-faced Yamaha instruments as yet another way to get rid of the 85mph speedo.

    Might be to the sidestand relay? I can't pick up the wire colors from the pic. But I can get to the right side of my bike easier than the left. Let's see if your results are conclusive or I can go look.
     
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    Sorry Dave, the read/yellow is the one that was connected together to get rid of the fuse.

    The one unplugged on the side and shorted has a black, green/blue, and blue/yellow.

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  18. hogfiddles

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    AH.....ok, scratch the txt msg's.....I'll go look for THIS combo now.....

    be right back...

    Dave F
     
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    Those wires got to the sidestand SWITCH.
     
  20. hogfiddles

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    Ok.....I just traced the wire and it goes right to the kickstand switch. So, apparently your's went bad and someone bypassed it.

    Dave F
     

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