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A new project, the abandoned xj650RJ

Discussion in 'Hangout Lounge' started by ecologito, Dec 2, 2012.

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After looking at the picture what would you do?

  1. Replace the engine and transmission

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  2. Replace only transmission

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  3. Sell the bike

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  4. Take it to a shop and they can do it in no time

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  1. hogfiddles

    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    Check to see what the specs are:

    1. fork width
    2. fork tube diameter
    3. diameter of center spindle hole

    If those are all the same, it should swap. If not, then you have to look at swapping the whole triple clamp. To do that,, check;
    fork width
    spindle length
    bearing sizes--with that, the 650 will have ball bearings, the 700 would have tapered bearings, so you'd do an upgrade anyway..... If you have a custom bearings place near you, you could get a set ordered up. Tell them the diameters of the top and bottom lands of the spindle, and the diameters of the neck where the races would go.

    It's do-able, you just have to do some homework and planning....

    If I have time, I'll try to do some comparisons and swaps, but it's gonna take a week or two before I can get to that at the moment.....

    dave Fox
     
  2. ecologito

    ecologito Well-Known Member

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    I do not have a 750 fork to measure it but here is what I've got from the one on the bike right now.

    [​IMG]

    If the 750 fits it might be cheaper and quicker to buy one from a 750 instead of trying to make the current one work.
     
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    i think i bought an extra set of blinkers when i was buying for my bike also i bought a box of bolts so lmk kno the specs on the bolts you need and i can send them over (thread count bolt size)
     
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    ecologito Well-Known Member

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    Myro, thanks a lot for the bolts offer. I know I have broken a few so I will need a few. As soon as I figure out what I need I will let you know
     
  5. hogfiddles

    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    the top mount for the 700/X/Virago mount will not work with the 650 forks....the forks are too small of a diameter. I tried them here. I didn't have a triple clamp apart that I could compare widths yet.....

    Dave F
     
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    ecologito Well-Known Member

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    Thanks a lot for checking them out Dave. I will meet with a friend and get the broken bolts out and make the new dash fit in.
     
  7. ecologito

    ecologito Well-Known Member

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    So the broken bolts are out and now the dash may need a little mod to bolt it in. The battery trey was hiding in my little shed so I finally found it and went back in place. I also got the exhaust back out to be cleaned and put back in just to test the engine/carbs and see how it runs.

    I am sure I will be taking a lot of things apart (again) to take care of the cosmetic stuff, really clean, shine, polish, paint everything once I know it is running.

    Fun stuff
     
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    ecologito Well-Known Member

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    Lot's of rain this weekend so no time to work, I did make a trip to advance auto and bought new spark plugs.

    This is what my driveway looks like right now and has been for the past few months:

    [​IMG]

    Can't wait to get the gauges mounted and move on to the next step.
     
  9. hogfiddles

    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    Hey BluesBass.............that's almost like a CHALLENGE. It's almost enough to make ME put up a picture and show him what a real pile of bikes and parts looks like! LOL

    Dave F
     
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    ecologito Well-Known Member

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    I've been wanting to see your "stash" of bikes.
     
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    Dave are you kidding me... you can't fit your pile in a picture... you would need an album...

    And Eco, you would be in Awe... and feel slightly inadequate... and I haven't seen everything... I have just seen one shed aparently ;-)
     
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    Today I tested compression on the par's bike engine and were not bad:

    C1 - 120
    C2 - 140
    C3 - 140
    C4 - 145

    I am thinking about checking valve shims and just "transfer" all the parts bike into the titled frame to keep it all stock and call it a day.

    This will be a lot less cumbersome than converting the 650 into a 750. As soon as I have time I will take care of the valve shims (will contact Dave as soon as I have a shopping list) and go from there. This weekend I even stopped by and got brand new spark plugs so this puppy should be up and running before next summer :p

    I really want to see what a pile of bikes look like (not at a junk yard).
     
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    X2, dave needs to post a pic! But he also needs to learn how to use Photobucket! :D
     
  14. hogfiddles

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    Ya gotta come to a carb clinic to be allowed to see it......LOL

    Dave F
     
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    ecologito Well-Known Member

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    It's official, got the title for the 750 on the mail today. i would love to attend a carb clinic and check out the stash since "panorama" does not work on your camera :)

    I think the first day of the carb clinic should be a "swap meet" since I have no bike to ride but plenty to haul :wink:
     
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    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    Sure! Have done that, too. Heck, we even had one year where the clinic became known as the Central NY Everything-BUT-Carb Clinic". That year we replaced a coil, worked on front brakes, saw how to disassemble a fork, put on new brake shoes, flushed a tank, replaced a side cover, and did a lot of oil and filter changes but no carb work that year.......

    Come on up!

    Dave F
     
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    I wish I could (at leastthis year). I will put it on my calendar/radar and will be there next year. I dont know if i will have something to ride but will be there one way or the other.
     
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    There have been others that have either trailered bikes in ,or have just driven in. All are accepted. ----Even the guy who rode in on his Harley. :)

    DAve F

    ps: in fairness, I must disclose that that guy with the harley happens to have a MaximX that his son rode in on with him.........
     
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    What about a guy on a Honda, but who owns 2 XJs?
     
  20. hogfiddles

    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    Let me think about that............Ok, since I have a '67 Honda 305 Dream apart up in the attic. :) LOL

    Dave F
     

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