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Brighter Headlight Electrical Question: Capicitors?

Discussion in 'XJ Modifications' started by RickCoMatic, Nov 2, 2010.

  1. wizard

    wizard Active Member

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    i'll take a guess, the PO used the relays to power the headlight (higher wattage bulb ?) took the power from the starter relay to drive the bulbs and used the original headlight wires to run the relays
    makes for a bright light, bypassing the original harness with big wire
    (quote from Polock 02 Dec 2009. Another 900) & he was spot on the '83 Xj900 had been fitted with the 100/80 & 2 relays, night to day, from the stocko.
     
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    I installed a Hella headlight conversion (purchase from Chacal) into my 1982 xj 650 seca which previously had the headlight changed from the original 8 inch unit to a standard size 7 inch unit. The Hella kit made all the difference in the world from the standard sealed beam which I had been struggling along blindly with.
    I have been an electrician/electronics tech for over 50 years and know a bit about lighting. Before you guys go on and on about all these fancy colored bulbs, do some real research and read some accurate technical bulletins and you will find that unless you were born with some kind of superhuman xray vision, the standard H4 bulbs light up the roadway just as good or better than any of the so called super bright H4 lamps. As for a high intensity discharge lamp and fixture, how in hxxx do you fit all the wires and plugs that are standard on most yamahas into that smaller fixture. Hope this helps you make your decision.
     
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    you are describing what is one style of HID, usually what you would see one an auto from the factory. most of the aftermarket replacement kits use an electro-magnet to move the spring mounted arc bearing electrodes ("filament") up or down, functioning exactly like the incandescent bulbs with differently mounted filaments.

    HID's are great, as mentioned there is a ballast and wiring to hide on your bike, and also a capacitor is recommended for the power supply because when the bikes voltage fluctuates around idle the ballast often loses the arc and re-fires. this is a big problem on the quads, but the duners all swear by them. my machines dont have lights so i havent experienced it myself.
     
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    Hmmm. Going to have to read up on that. Been about a year since the last time I did a HID conversion.

    Im just having a hard time grasping the concept of a variable geometry filament.....

    As for the high and low beam capible incandescent bulbs they actually have 2 elements in them. Not just one.
     
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  6. bigfitz52

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    My point being if you want a reasonably priced plug-n-play solution, a Eurospec motorcycle specific H4 conversion kit is an easy and very dramatic upgrade.

    I'm quite happy with both of them, I can feel confident riding at night like never before and it didn't take a lot of re-engineering. None at all actually.
     
  7. mechanicalmadness

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    Hmm thats strange. While I have never played with 8k bulbs I did have a 6k that I must say was a vast improvement over the 5k (or was it 4? cant remember lol). Most of the conversions that I have done have been on friends cars and bikes. But the last one i did was on my car.

    I tried all sorts of bulbs in it and finally threw in the towel and went HId(it was a factory option after all)

    I did notice a few things with the 6k that I dont recal seeing with the 5k.

    For starters the light was more blue. I was carefull to aim my beams for optimal distance but not so much that i screw with oncoming traffic . Honestly I got awesome distance with the hotter bulbs. Probably the equivalent of my old high beams (i think they were H2's)

    Another thing i noticed..and i must say probably the only thing that really made me love those damn headlights was driving in the rain.

    With my standard bulbs I could barely see the road markings when it would start to rain(the white lines). the case was the same with the 5 k bulbs. But with the 6k's I could see them just fine.

    Now keep in mind that i was driving a 2000 323ci with a sport package option. i tend to sit low in the car as it is and the lower stance of the car put my head probably somewhere just below the head of a bike rider.

    I dont know for what its worth HID's have always been good to me when used with a single focusing lens . But I have noticed that they dont do all that well when used with a standard multi prism lens...refraction lens, whatever the heck its called lol.
     
  8. jimhandsome1870

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    i also installed a new hid light for my car ,but i use vvme hid,
    the quality is good and low price .
    driving in the dark ,maybe is not a difficult thing.
    you can view this: http://www.vvme.com
     
  9. jimhandsome1870

    jimhandsome1870 New Member

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    Capicitors???
    i didn't consider so many questions.
    i just buy two vvme hid ,that look great .
    and also get some maintence messge about car.
    http://www.vvme.com
     
  10. darkfibre

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    If you have a Motorcycle H4 light, you can use a H4 hid kit and the light pattern stays the same (if the globe is in the identical focal position, different for high and low beam).

    Not all cheap HID kits have the correct focal point, the best ones have a semi shrouded motorised globe. Some of the cheap kits belong in the bin.

    I run a H4 halogen hi/low and the second is a modified H4 HID set up for hi beam only for country runs.

    [​IMG]

    Spot the HID
     
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    Most of the above refers to round headlights (which is understandable). I'd be interested in any thoughts about square headlights - in particular a how-to on adding relays.... :wink:
     
  12. jimhandsome1870

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    I never noticed too . Mine seem to work just fine.
    but for hid,i like vvme hid.
     
  13. jimhandsome1870

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    different color temp .
    i think 6000k is the brightest.
    6000k 55w hid makes me very clear in dark.
     
  14. jimhandsome1870

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    your light looks so big , so bright.
    i install VVME HID,also it is so big ,like two big eyes.
    my friends advice me let i small ,because when i drive on the road ,
    others can't see the road clear.
     
  15. jimhandsome1870

    jimhandsome1870 New Member

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    ohh,i like this post ,so interesting and helpful for me .
     

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