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Howto: Replace your stuck carb drain screws

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by gremlin484, May 5, 2007.

  1. ManBot13

    ManBot13 Well-Known Member

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    I just got through performing this task with varying success. The #1 screw had a large flat-head and was easy to get out. The rest were, or got buggered up, and need to be extracted. I used this craftsman micro extractor, and #2 came right out. The tool ate through it's own threads on #3 and #4. So on #3, I got the bright idea of just trying to use the next size up - not a good idea. Needless to say, with a little heat and PB Blaster, I got #4 out by just drilling deeper and trying again with the right size and some heat, but broke off the bit in #3 after trying lots of different stuff.

    As a testament to how amazing chacal is, I asked him what the prices were on his bowls, but also asked if I could set the float height by switching with a good bowl. He gave me the price and the honest answer that yes, float height could be set with any bowl. So I'm just gonna jb weld the drain shut on #3, and make a little extra work for myself when setting the float height.
     
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    bill Active Member

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    Before I got my screws out I did the same thing - I had one that worked and swapped it along. I'll pass along a tip - I found 2 screws held the bowl without leaking for the adjustment - saves a good bit of time.
     
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    I was going to say just bang it against a curb... but not only will that not work... not even on a dirt bike where that method of repair might actually make a difference, but this is a very nifty, step by step process. One which I am saving in my favorites.
     
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    Can someone please tell me where the carb drain screws are located I would like to know how to drain them for winter storage. thanks, Ricksta 1981 XJ 550 Maxim
     
  5. Gamuru

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    Go here, enter your bike information, click on 'CARBURETOR XJ550H - J - K' on the left-hand column, then look for #47.

    (I'm not sure if this link will last, but here's the Carb diagram for your bike.)
     
  6. Militant_Buddhist

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    If the part will come off and fit in my hand (IE bowls) my prefered method of applying heat is a fondue pot of brake fluid on a hot plate. Works wonders on those gummed solid starter jets too. Usual precautions apply, don't hurt yourself.
     
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    I got mine loose with a fry daddy full of wd-40 . It worked like a charm . Oh and it got them clean too !!!! :D
     
  8. RickCoMatic

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    Sometimes, them who are not totally familiar with the way the Carb Bowls are supposed to be oriented, ... will "Reverse" the order that the Fuel Bowls are meant to be installed.

    That is to say, ... the Fuel Bowls with Drain Screws which are supposed to be installed with the Drain Screws facing OUTBOARD: <</<<[]>>\>> get them on back-on there "Bass-ackwards": >>/>>[]<<\<< and the two Drain Screws that you would have easily found and undone ... are facing the wrong darn way.
     
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    can't see them pitches

    hi guys, I cannot see the pictures in post #1. Is it just me?
    Aharon
     
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    "Bass-ackwards" is really funny! Being a bass player myself, I felt "Bass-awkward" when I first read this! lol
    Aharon
     
  11. camshaftprelube

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    On the bike I sold to Doc, every screw was hopelessly mangled. I heated each bowl with a heat gun until they smoked, about a minute, maybe a bit more. A very sharp slotted screwdriver dug in enough to grab what was left and they came out relatively easily.

    Not knowing where to look, I hopped on bikebandit.com. $25 each. Eff that.

    I went down to the hardware store, bought four allen-head, grade 10.9 metric bolts. Chucked each bolt in my lathe, cut back the threads and recreated the taper on the end of each. Cut the head off of each bolt, and slotted them with a dremel. Made them about 3/4" longer than stock, so you could mangle them up as much as you'd like, and could trim it off and re-slot them.

    Kind of moot at this point.
     
  12. RickCoMatic

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    Most folks probably would have left the Allen Heads on.
    Specially on stainless.
     
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    They weren't stainless, they were alloy steel. I've had too many cases of stainless galling to give them serious consideration. I don't normally consider the use of stainless fasteners when I put stuff together. Plus, stainless gives me trouble on my lathe.
    I don't think the inner ones would be easily accessible by hex key; I wanted them to be reliable and easy for whoever bought it. A screwdriver is all that's needed, something you could keep on the bike or easily borrow in an emergency.

    Also, the total sum was under $5.00, and about 1/2 an hour of work (aside from driving to the store).
     
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    Awesome post... Am I the only one that can't see the pictures? I'm just getting little question marks where the pictures should be.
     
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    no, the pics were lost when the forum was changed. it's an unfortunate loss, because there are so many posts that require the pics. there are a lot of broken links as a result of the shift as well.

    FU
     
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    What a shame... I guess Gremlin484 is no longer active on the forum, to get those pics re uploaded... I clicked on his screen name and it said, last seen March 28th 2010.
     
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    yeah, that is just the way forums go.

    FU
     
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    I agree! This is an excellent post. So great, I copy and pasted it onto my computer to keep. Thanks dude. You rock!




    Motocross Pants Womens
     
  19. Dale Start

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    Hi all. I know this is an old thread - sorry if reviving it is bad form. I'm wanting to replace my carb drain screws, but I have VERY little experience and what might be obvious to most here is mystical to me.
    My drain screws aren't stuck, but the heads are very nearly stripped so I thought I should proactively replace them now.
    1. Can I replace them without removing the carbs? Just, unscrew them and screw in the new ones (with gaskets)?
    2. What should I have the fuel valve set to when I do it? PRI, ON, or RES?
     
  20. k-moe

    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

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    You won't have good access to them on the bike, but it can be done. The petcock should be set to ON so gas won't flow from the tank (vacuum operated petcock). Have a length of fuel line and a bucket handy to catch the fuel from the float bowls in. The drain screws do not have gaskets or o-rings on them. They seal against a taper in the float bowl.

    Please start a thread for your bike that includes the year and model and type of XJ.
    Before starting any work Read This First
    Welcome to the best motorcycle forum on the planet :)
     
  21. bigfitz52

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    MIKUNI float bowl drain screws do have o-rings on them.

    We need to know what bike so we can provide bike-specific accurate answers.
     
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    Thanks guys. Good advice, I'll start a new thread with the deets.
     
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    This should read "Most Mikuni float bowl... or "Some Mikuni..." I have just been informed that later (post '83-ish) Mikunis shifted away from o-rings on the drain screws. So while the Mikunis fitted to the XJ550s will have o-rings, those on later models may well not have.

    Making it even more important that we know what bike we're talking about.
     
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    +1

    A friendly reminder to the collective (particularly the new members: put the bike info in your signature. If you have multiples, make sure to mention which one you want help with in the post or thread title.
     

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