Old Bike, Possible New Project.. New to Mechanics..

It can easily be done using a Yamaha online parts fiche, like this one: http://www.yamahapartshouse.com/oempart ... ycle/parts

You look up your part number in the fiche for your bike, {copy} the part number; then go back to the "motorcycle" index page and {paste} it into the "search by part number" box. Once the result comes up, you click on "where used" and it will give you the whole list of Yamahas that use that exact same part number.

The WHOLE list I got for the switch pod was:

1979 XS1100F
1980 XS1100G
1980 XS400G
1980 XS400SG
1980 XJ650 (XJ650G)
1981 XJ550H
1981 XJ550RH
1981 XJ650LH
1981 XS400SH
1981 VIRAGO 750 (XV750H)
1981 XJ650 (XJ650H)
1981 XS400 (XS400H)
1982 XJ550J
1982 XJ550RJ
1982 XJ650J
1982 XJ650RJ
1982 XS400SJ
1982 VIRAGO 750 (XV750J)
1983 XJ550K
1983 XJ550RK
1983 XJ650K
1983 MIDNIGHT VIRAGO 750 (XV750MK)
1983 VIRAGO 750 (XV750K)

The advantage to the CD is that it covers cross-references that Yamaha doesn't admit to (like the fact that the Seca 550 and Seca 650 front fenders are identical except for color/finish.)

There's a copy of the shim chart in my valve adjustment how-to. But you honestly don't need a chart; one size smaller shim adds .05mm to your clearance, two sizes down adds .10mm. Let's say you have an out-of-spec exhaust valve measuring .14mm with a 265 shim installed; installing a 260 will give you (add .05) a clearance of .19mm, in spec. How about an intake valve at a tight .03mm with a 270 installed? Installing a 265 would only put us at .08mm, we'd need a 260 to get us in spec at .13mm.

Keep it purely metric and it's as easy as Pi. :wink:

 

There is a lot more than just the cross reference application in the XJCDs set. For me, that was the best source of written informations I've got (bike related, I mean).

 

This notice appears on a separate page, all its own, in every Genuine Yamaha Workshop Manual published.

The Yamaha Publications are subject to Copyright.

 

Another cool thing about the discs is that there's a lot of nice bike pics on there.

Dave F

 

I seem to remember that the copyright concerns have been properly adressed by the XJCD team, but Brad would certainly be able to answer that question.

 

As of this date, Feb. 4, 2013 ... there has been Absolutely NO Permission ... NO License Issued ... and NO Authorization what-so-ever given to the Publishers of the aledged Illegally Distributed Genuine Yamaha Workshop Manuals published and distributed on Compact Discs ... known as the XJCD.

The XJCD enterprise, Yamaha says, is Piracy of Copyrighted Material.

Questions regarding the legality of the Pirated Literature held under Copyright may be directed to:

Yamaha Motors Corporation, USA
Customer Service ~ Public Relations
Kennessaw, Georgia
Ph. (741) 761-7300

 

Rick is right, the XJCD is a "bootleg" and believe it or not, some of us don't have one (XJCD.)

All of the resources it includes are indeed available elsewhere; just not all in one place.

This horse is already quite dead from all the beating it's gotten over the past 5 years or so.

 

Oh, the poor horse.

Dave

 

So where do i get a copy!

 

Go back a few posts, it is all in there!

 

Fitz.........the 650 maxim control is not quite the same as the 550 maxim control. There is an extra ground wire on one of them but not the other. They ARE all the same as far as fit, and plugs, etc.... but that one wire is different. One has the additional ground through the wire and the other has the ground just through the handlebar. The wire created a better ground, as the bar-only ground had issues at the bearings. I went through a lengthy lesson on that earlier this year and learned a whole lot more about electrical current at that time.

So yes, they are interchangeable as long as you account for the extra wire.......

 

Ahh, good old Yamaha. All the same part number; slight variations in the parts. It's not the only part that's like that. I was going by the fiche.

 

No probl.....just letting you know, that's all. I went through that earlier this year with another listmember as we were juggling parts all over to get a working control again. That's how we came across that.

Dave

 

Thanks again Dave for helping me with that control I learned a thing or two about the starting electrical circuit too after it was all said and done!

 

No probl! It was good to find out, and it was an interesting discovery!

dave

 

I have seen R/H Controls from other models substituted for Stock.

The Quick-connect Plugs are different.
So, ... the miss-matching Plug-in's are removed and swapped.

 

Thing is, on the ones that Moellear and I were working with.....the plugs ARE the same. The extra wire is what needed to be accounted for......it was extra grounding to provide for better electrical systems grounding, rather than just the contact ground of the switch-handlebars-clamps-fork-frame via ballbearings ground, which is a weak ground.

Dave F

 

Extra Wire? Ain't nobody got time for that. I'm gonna get confused.. I know nothing about electrical systems and hoping all my lights and blinkers work or I'll need outside help.

On a better note, Haynes Manual gets here Monday! I can't wait! Tax return needs to hurry up so I can order tools.

 

Scream, it's not anything you need to worry about. Just make sure that whatever you get is from a 650 maxim, not a 550 maxim. The 650 one simply has an extra ground wire in it. the 550 just has an empty hole in the plug. (the 550 will actually work, but you'll not have as good a ground through the handlebars.)

Dave F

 

And just to add to hog's point. Seriously, don't worry. There is nothing electrically complicated about our bikes, save maybe the TCI. My 550 control works great-as long as your main ground is intact and the bars are not made of non-conductive material-it will work.

Don't over think or second guess things before you actually get 'hands-on' experience with it. The case of the extra wire phenomenon was discovered by just such experience and nothing replaces that. So press on forward-be confident that any troubles you experience not only can, but WILL be solved. Like what Rick said there is always more than one way to solve a problem.