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Discussion in 'Hangout Lounge' started by ridz, Jul 21, 2007.

  1. PghXJ

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    I want to watch this one to see all the good ideas for shirts.

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    Scrape: Though I truly like how it looks, that would be extremely hard/very expensive to put that on a shirt.
     
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    Your probably right, I have to get out of this dark/neon rut I'm in and move on to other concepts.
     
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    Wouldn`t a small Embroidered Patch be easier and longer lasting. Just a thought.
     
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    Again, let me stress that I can do 1 color screens for this. Any/all artwork should be 300 dpi jpeg/psd/pdf/eps or other common formats. 100% contrast, although halftones would work too. If I need to tweek it in photoshop a bit, I can-- just dont try to send a file with some crazy format/extension. Also, I do not use Plastisol ink, so NO "white on black" designs please. The textile ink I use holds up great, I have shirts I've done 6 years ago that still look good, I just dont have a flash dryer to cure Plastisol.

    My preference for the $$$ would be $12+shipping.

    As for the designs I've seen so far, I like the exploded carb, and really like the shot fo the motor, but Scrape, you need to work in a higher resolution. I think we should emphasize the "inline4" engine idea, contradicting the v-twin craze currently going on....
     
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    Man , this has become a most interesting thread.

    Im excited to see what we end up with.

    Kevin thats some good advice, I myself cant wait to send the 12.50 per shirt.

    Man it kinda feels like xmas lol. Good stuff going on here!
     
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    cash in hand...

    waiting...it'll be cool to have an XJ shirt.
     
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    I may need some help but I think I can do it. I'm having a hard time nicking a good photo on a Google image search to get great resolution. I may have to take a pic of my 550's motor with my daughters 7 mega pixel camera. How do I convert the logo into an acceptable resolution because it doesn't blow up well without losing detail. Can I print and scan it at a higher DPI to get better resolution?...I'm lost! Bear with me because I'm just learning some of this stuff. Should I try, for example, to make maybe an all black line design?...at 100% contrast, as mentioned. I have to give that one a go to see if I can do it right. I'll run a test file of something later today to see if I'm going in the right direction.
     
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    Set the camera to the highest resolution, and take the pic. A lot of cameras default to 640x480, which is fine for web work and whatnot, but not for what we're doing. Rescanning a picture will not work when the original was taken at a lower resolution. Take a couple and email them to me at kevin(at)70-71(dot)com I'll try to work them a bit and post here later. I'm off to AMA vintage days right now.
     
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    What's the cost per shirt for one tone screens? I am pretty sure I can keep it fairly cheap in town here for 3 colors and keep the cost < $15 shirt, depending on style of shirt.
     
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    Get the original from Sno rather than grabbing the tiny one from the web page.
     
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    Or get the original and retrace it out as a shape in photoshop, thereby you can scale it w/o losing resolution.
     
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    Sorry for the delay, got busy Sunday and picked up a new motorcycle jacket after work yesterday that I so desperately needed. I'll take the motor pic after work today.
     
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    Wher are we @ men...are we making any head way with this? I hope so im soooooooooooooooooooo anxious :!:
     
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    I have this so far:

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    I have the file on it for a high resolution pic but this pic here is a reduced size just to view here. I have to clean it up but will this work for the motor? Don't be shy because it is our tee shirt we are talking about here and it has to be right.
     
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    I can rotate the motor, make the exhaust longer ect... Use your imagination and let's see where this goes. Like I said, I have a lot of clean/touch up but I don't want to spend much time on this one if it's not right. Your welcome to send me a pic file also to work with.
     
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    You know I would be happy with that on the back and xj symbol on the front and im ready to purchase !
     
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    Scrape, looks good but I would try to get the clutch cable out of the picture.
     
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    I'll do that for sure, I also have to work on the pipes because the chrome played tricks on the effects that I had to use. I may take the host pic over ,and spray the chrome with this liquid wax I have to dull the finish, so it doesn't reflect anything in the foreground anymore.
     
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    My completely non-expert opinion:

    There should be a couple of things going on in the t-shirt design. First of all, the front logo should simply be the XJ-bikes logo. Just replace the orange with black, and it'll work fine for a single-color print run. Maybe print the web address in a smaller font underneath it...

    For the back picture, I really like the exploded carb, but there are a couple issues with that, IMO. First, that image is copyrighted. Second, I think the picture should be something that's easily identifiable by the average XJ owner as XJ-specific. The carb diagram could conceivably be from any number of bikes, and most wouldn't know the difference unless they had a manual handy to compare it to.

    That's why I really like the engine-and-pipes image, if we can get it simplified into a line image that can be printed on a T-shirt but still be recognizable. Bonus if we can keep the YICS logo readable. (I know not all XJ's have YICS, but most XJ-owners would recognize it, I think...)

    Finally, if we put a slogan on it, it should be something in the nature of an "inside" statement - something that site members would recognize. "Rick says 'check your brushes'" is classic, I think, but there are probably other one-liners that would work equally well.

    Basically, the way I see it, any XJ-owner should "get" the picture, but only site members would "get" the slogan. Does that make sense the way I described it?

    Anyway, I like what we've got so far... let's get this rolling. :)

    P.S.: Wherever we get these printed, can we make sure we can order them in appropriate sizes for those of us who need, shall we say, "extra coverage"? ;)
     
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    Correct Nick.

    Getting the logo designed was the first step to getting the XJBikes products. I already have setup the cafepress store and it seems that now it's a good time to get some shirt designs. In the next 2 weeks Mrs Sno will be working on getting the graphics for the web store. Please keep posting the slogans and any custom pics. The Yamaha logo can not be used for legal reasons.
     
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    I don't know how to do a line image without using tracing paper and a scanner to create a file....it is possible! My last image is the only way I know, so far, to make it black color and having to utilize a pic of a real motor. I was hoping that it was possible to print that pic. I just need a pic of something that I can work with to do anything different.

    I'll redo the last pic method tonight and post the results Saturday morning. I'll fix the pipes and overall pic with the deletion of the clutch cable also. It will look good when I'm done but I just want to explain some of my trials and why I did it. I had to leave the front of the motor darker as to hide the bike frame easier....it's a chore digitally. I have to get rid of the rear foot peg and bracket, as it is, digitally but will just disconnect the clutch cable for the pic because it is faster and better to do it that way. If someone took a pic of a junk motor with pipes sitting on the work bench, I could do something much better. The effects I use would hide any defects or nothing a little touch up can't cure, so don't worry about the condition of the host assembly for the pic.
     
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    I was also thinking that if the logo and possile home web address is on the front then the motor on the back will look a bit lonely. Maybe I can put some cool "XJ" letter text with it and have maybe some Yamaha blue flames shooting off behind it. I dunno...comments? As far as inside forum sayings, that can be an open topic for later additions.
     
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    The blue and white Yamaha Logo with the 3 tuning forks would look cool. Maybe on the shirt sleeve . Just an :idea: .
     
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    Yes, we all agree that would be cool. However:

    Scrape, I guess I didn't mean it had to be a line image, just simplified enough to make it feasible to print. I really like your image as-is, in fact, but it has lots of shading that I think would be expensive to print. I'd buy one, but I don't think you'd be able to hit the $12-15 price point that people have mentioned.

    Doesn't hurt to try, though, and I'd love to be proven wrong! :wink:
     
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    something like this doable ?
     
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    Bunch of good ideas here, wish I had the skill to help.

    Pollock I like that set up could we reverse the logo and address though.

    Man this thread has got me so stoked.
     
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    like that
     
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    Looking good
     
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    I really like how it looks, but the amount of paint that will put on the front (or back) of the shirt would be so much, honestly, the shirt would be hot, sticky, and not very comfortable. I used to have a shirt w/that kinda coloring on it... Not very comfortable.
     
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    No luck with the new angle...I'm a failure and think I have to do something else. Way to go Polock, nice job! :D

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    Polock, that looks really awesome. Where'd you get that cutaway view of the engine? I'd love to have a high-res version of that for my desktop.
     
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    actually i scanned mine, zoom to #1&2 exhaust valve train, alignment mismatch, from last page of xj750j yamaha shop manual
    Scrape, nice pictures
     
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    Yea pollock im diggin that set up..Scrape your doing fine , dont get tunnel vision...Things will work out if we(never surrender)....Keep keeping on .~Ridz~
     
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    Scrapes shot on page 5 looks awesome. I really like the direction that one is going.

    In any case you can bet I'll be buying a couple of these shirts.
     
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    Man dont let this die, if I have to front my money to start this project ...Well im willing as its the only way I can pitch in...Lets do this johnnie!
     
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    yeah, what he ^^^ said
     
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    Moderators lets have a dead line for designs to be submitted. Then it can be put to a poll.

    But who-ever is going to print them must give us a speck as to coulors etc that are possible. Prize for winning design a free shirt?

    Every one agree?
     
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    Im down with that idea, just want to get this done so I can breeze with my new shirt...yeah baby!
     
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    I have setup some sample products but the store is not ready for purchases just yet. You can have a peek (don’t buy just yet) at XJBikes Store

    As you can see, the store has a good variety of products (I'll be adding more) so we can probably get multiple styles and colors with various graphics and slogans. Please keep submitting your ideas in this post. I’d like all ideas to be submitted by Aug 29th so I can finalize the products.
     
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    Alright, well it looks like I'm not doing the printing for this...
     
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    The store had all manner of products, but I did not see any keychains.
     
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    you can do the names in pre-spaced, pre-cut heat transfer lettering for about $3-4 each. a seperate screen wouldnt be necessary and these are both easier AND cheaper than doing it letter by letter...

    i screen print for a second living and do shirts for a local shooting club's juniors team every year. the names (or other pre-cut designs) can be transferred with an iron or (preferably a heat press)...

    if you dont have a source for the heat transfer stuff and thats whats wanted, i can get it from the 2nd largest supplier in the states. let me know what were looking for, bill everyone, send me the money and i will keep everyone updated on the ordering, picking up and mailing out to whomever does the shirts...

    i think ive got pretty good references if you check ebay and with RickCoMatic...

    just for an FYI, a white shirt (6.1oz 100% cotton Gildan) with one color print (one side) goes for about $7 plus the screen. I dont charge for setting up the press like some places and my screens are pretty reasonable at $20 each...

    if you want one color with a small front logo in addition to a larger back image, add $1.50. i can do a front and back set up like this on the same screen...

    multiple colors add $20 per screen and $1.50 for each color over one. example: white gildan 6.1oz with 2 colors on the back and 2 colors on the front==$7 for one hit on back. +$1.50 for second color on back, + $3 for the two colors on the front for a total of $11.50 per shirt in quantities of 72 or more. add $20 x two screens...

    order 72 shirts and the cost would be $11.50 + 1/72 of $40 ($0.55) or $12.05. I would probably discount the nickel! names could be added to total about $15. shipping would be about a buck or two each...

    NO. im not really interested in doing these but it thats what it comes down to, well let me know in a pm or email...
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    plastisol inks work just fine. i run my dryer quite a bit...

    the issue with ANYTHING on dark colors requires a white underlayment and flash (another screen, another layer of ink, flash curing) for about $4 each...

    also these are all multi-color samples, which while not a tough job to do, they add to the expense...

    i didnt read the entire thread before my last post but it appears that $12-15 seems to be about the best rate weve come up with...

    i for one dont anymore Ts but i would probably spring for one. colored shirts WHOLESALE for about $3 more than white...

    here is a color sheet for Gildans...
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