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Stuck Pilot jet/easy out. Cut down tube?

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by CJmaxim, Sep 25, 2011.

  1. skw1972

    skw1972 Member

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    now that is a good idea. there has got to be something to get a good enough hold on that extractor. Im thinking on it bro but skyhawk hit a little genius there, it cant hurt and might work, I kinda think it will really. Im gonna study that pic a little more
     
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    off the wall here just brain storming.. could you use a small, SMALL bit to drill beside the ez out in a couple of places and weaken the hold the brass has on the extractor?
     
  3. Polock

    Polock Well-Known Member

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    when a gunsmith finds himself with a broken tap one of their tricks is a automatic center punch to try to shatter the tap. they use carbon steel taps not high speed steel like most of us, i don't know what a ez-out is made from but it might be worth a try.
    or
    from the looks of it that ez-out doesn't have far to go before it goes all the way through the jet, maybe get a small pin and tap it through
     
  4. RickCoMatic

    RickCoMatic Well-Known Member

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    Let your fingers do the walking!

    Look-up: Vocational High School's

    Take the Carb and go see the Faculty Head of Machine Shop Class.
    Show him a "Real World Problem"

    Ask if they have a solution for you.
    Bring Checkbook.
    Make-out Check for:
    Appropriate HS Machine Shop Expendable Account.
    "Donation"
     
  5. skyhawk

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    Exellant thought skw1972, but I really think the extractor was a small one, and bit into the tube, more than it did the brass jet as I tried to explain it the past post. i wish I has a cut away picture to post, that would show it well. Heating the tube may expand it just enough where he can get that extractor out. But it may be worth a try, anthything to save the carb.
     
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    oh, i dig the real deal now. yeah well that does put a spin on it. ok more brainstorm time. Ricks idea is bangin too. (Im filing that in memory)
    as I see it Id say #1 go for the freezer, if that dont work go for the mechanic class.
    dude it sucks but I seen a couple single carbs on fleabay about an hour ago for like 34.00
    still thinkin though
     
  7. CJmaxim

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    Great ideas. I will freeze it over night. I think the ground down pliers are my best bet to grab it.

    Rick, unfortunately there's not many vocational techs left. They started teaching sign making or some crap. :)
     
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    Be fast, turn clockwise, and good luck
     
  9. RickCoMatic

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    There you go!
    Go for broke.
    Get a decent Rack of Carbs and Overhaul them.
    Shaft seals, too.

    Or, ...

    Just swap a Body for the one with the problem.
     
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    I've been looking for a #2 carb for several weeks. The 550 carbs are hard to come by. I see 650 & up carbs regularly but hardly the 550 carbs. When I find a rack for a good price I'll snatch it up.
     
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    First off, the good news. I GOT THE BIT OUT! :D

    Second, the bad news, how I got it out... :roll:

    I had that carb in the freezer all night and day. Got every thing ready, fired up the torch, ran in got the carb, applied proper heat to the tube, grabbed the bit with my ground down needle nose, twisted clockwise... nothin. Kept trying until the teeth tore off the needle nose.

    So at this point, I made the call that it was last resort (for the tools and resources I have at hand, which I have lots of tools & have been working on this pilot jet for 3 weeks).

    I reached up for the hacksaw... 8O
    2 cuts


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    It still wasn't enough for me to grab so I filed the tube down even with the jet leaving the bit exposed. Then I grabbed it perpendicular with needle nose and leveraged it out.

    holy crap

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    Here is the bit next to one of the other jets to show how far it was in.

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    Again, I will not be riding it this way. Just testing the bike. But I still have to get the jet out which means more drilling & digging. I was planning on getting a different carb body anyway so why not try this?

    XJ gods, please have mercy on my soul :twisted:
     
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    That works. You were just going to test it anyway so you are good to go!
     
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    Yup. Too bad you had to resort to that, but again I say you'll be OK to use that carb body as a test. If the fuel level in the bowl is adjusted properly the bottom of the idle fuel jet should be bathed in fuel, whether that tube exists or not. Removing that portion of the tube shouldn't prevent static testing.

    Of course... You'll have to get (what's left of) the idle fuel jet out of the carb body.

    Other than what has already been suggested about getting the jet out, my only advice is that you can take the idle AIR jet out (up under the diaphragm), and shoot a healthy dose of WD-40 in there. If you hold the carb body upright (like it's installed on the bike), the WD-40 should make it's way to the other (blind) side of the idle fuel jet.

    And yes, I would use WD-40 for this job, not PB Blaster, or Liquid Wrench. Just don't forget that it's flammable if you reach for the torch again!

    PS - Did I mention that I hate EZ-Outs? :x
     

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