Turn Signal Fuse? Relay?

Hey guys, might have made a big problem and looking for some help.

I was putting on some new turn signals on my bike (86 Maxim 700 X), and upon disconnecting the left turn signal I noticed that I couldn't get the turn signals to flash anymore. They would stay on and not flash, along with the indicator light. After looking into it, two of the wires on the left front turn signals touched and shorted out everything. Now I have nothing, no lights, indicator lights, starter button won't do anything..

I'm praying that this is just a fuse somewhere and that I didn't fry anything. Any help or advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

 

Shorting the turn signal should have blown the flasher fuse, but since you have nothing check the main fuse also.

A description from Len on the location:

"XJ700 models used two separate fuse panels: one that contained the four secondary circuits, including two 10A fuses, and two 15A fuses, which is located within the instrument warning lights panel; and a separate 30A main circuit in-line fuse holder was located under the seat. These bikes used the later push-in style ATC fuses in the dash fuse panel from the factory; the 30A main circuit fuses were still the older "glass tube" AGC style fuse, and that is certainly a candidate for updating with the 30A ATC style in-line fuse holder HCP6833 listed below."

Also, aftermarket turn signals often come with lower wattage bulbs and will not work with the Flasher Assembly supplied by Yamaha. You should be able to change the bulbs to match the original and restore the turn signals.

 

Thanks for the help, it was the main fuse under the seat.

I replaced that and wired up my turn signals, which brings me to my next question.

I wired up the back turn signals and they worked fine, but when I wired up the front, I wasn't exactly sure what to do with the driving lamp wires (blue wire). My new turn signals aren't dual filament, so there isn't a way for me to wire them up. Now when I turn on the signals they just stay on the whole time, and the turn signal indicator light stays on as well. It also sounds like there is a relay clicking on and off really fast.

Does anyone have a solution of how to wire this up correctly?

 

just tape up the wires you're not using i.e. the (blue) driving light wire.
the new signals will not be of sufficient wattage to make the flasher relay work. as stated above.
check the wattage of the old signal bulbs. and compare it with the new ones, fit the correct wattage bulbs.
stu

 

Makes sense, that's pretty much what I have done right now.

As far as the wattage goes, my new turn signals are LED? Anyway I can get those to work?

The back ones worked fine, but once I installed the front they stopper working and would just stay on solid and not blink.

Will I need to change the flasher relay to something that will work to get them to flash?

 

yes you need to change the flasher relay for an electronic relay, but you will loose the self cancelling feature,
there are numerous threads on this , just type in led flasher or the like, and theres loads.
stu

 

This thread starts out being about modifying the XJ750 systems monitor, but late in the thread there is a diagram for a relay setup that preserves the self-cancel feature. http://www.xjbikes.com/forums/index...to-leds-and-still-have-everything-work.14068/

 

I believe the 700 X uses an integrated flasher / self cancelling assembly. Therefore, to do the mod as SQLGuy suggests, you would have to revert back to the old individual assemblies, change some wiring, and then come up with a way to mount them. Going from one assembly to three would seem a bit impractical.

I did a quick search for aftermarket replacements with autocancel, and it still seems there is nothing out there that will utilize the reed switch for the self cancel feature. Everything seemed to based on time.

So, two options - install load resistors to simulate the original 27 watt load of the bulbs, which seems counterintuitive if the goal was to save on power consumption. Or, find another set of blinkers that you like that use the incandescent bulb. With option two, I would suggest keeping the running lights for added visibility and safety.

Edit: And a quick note on blowing the main fuse. It would be a good idea to check the other fuses for proper sizing. The main fuse should not have been the one to blow when a 15 amp flasher fuse was in line with it. Oversizing those fuses could cause melting of insulation in the main harness, which could lead to a complete harness change.