Water in Engine

Stoked! Ordered a bunch of bits and pieces from Len so I can finish wet setting my carbs and check valves. Gotta finish soda blasting the engine then do the valves, then refinish the valve cover and replace with new gasket and donuts, then into the bike she goes for tuning.

 

Nice!!!

 

Awesome job so far man

 

There is a lot left to do, in fact since I couldn't sleep last night I ran through the entire plan over and over again in my mind. Get it running and tuned, address suspension and brake maintenance, aluminum polishing, paint the tins, ride it for a while, maybe take the top end parts from the original engine and build a big bore kit, add a set of large carbs and a 4-1 pipe then dyno tune that setup, then test fit an 18" rear wheel from a Seca, maybe find some wire Virago wheels, look into TBI, maybe work out a small turbo, miraculously come across a set of original factory hard saddlebags (which may or may not even exist), find and install the higher backrest and luggage rack, add a TourTank, ride cross country several time, woo and marry Scarlett Johannson, should probably work that one out with my current wife first, oh yeah totally get in shape and win American Ninja Warrior,


I really need to sleep...

 

....and cut back on the Red Bulls....

 

Parts have arrived, although my dog assumed the package was for him and put a few bite marks in the box. Thanks Len.

 

And so the carbs are done. New needle seat filter screens, new bowl gaskets and floats set. I am now masking off the engine intake and exhaust ports in anticipation of soda blasting. Such fun!

 

Ok, so valves have been checked and found to be all within spec. New valve cover gasket, donuts all around, finished soda blasting the engine, soon the engine goes into the frame.

 

I'll be dipped. Digging through my box of parts from the original engine teardown, I came across something that I would swear was an emissions canister. Sure as shooting, my VIN includes the 1JJ00 code. So having swapped in a non-California engine, what is this going to do to me?

Also, would someone be able to post up a picture of the hose routing around the carbs? While I have them in hand, before everything goes into the frame I would like to hook up all the fuel and vacuum lines before I lose the ease of accessibility.

 

The canister is easy to hook up......

Assuming your original bike is a California one, you should have
The California carbs, too. They have an extra nipple that goes to the canister. The canister goes under the right side cover where the tool pouch would normally be. The return line from the canister goes to the nipple on the bottom of your tank. The tank has a tube inside it that traps the vapors I. The tank. The California tank is a non-vented-cap tank because of that. So, the California tank is a little different inside then the rest.

It you need more info, pm me

 

Ok so I have been doing a ton of reading and I don't think I should have any problems with a non-Cali engine. I have identified the extra port on carb #2, and even found my old pictures of the carb rack before I disassembled them (everyone is taking lots of pictures of their carbs as step 1, right?) so this is kind of an interesting tangent to this project.

California emissions port, carbs are upside down (duh)


Filthy, and so many hoses


One more, right side up, showing the emissions port on carb #2

 

No you won't have any trouble.... Just put a tight cap on the carb nipple--
Or, hook up the canister and leave the return vent tube open under the tank --
Or, if you still have the calif tank, hook everything up.

It's an emissions thing, not an engine thing---

Dave fox

 

Those look like my '85 carbs with vent hoses everywhere!

 

I tube is gas line ( normal ), three tubes are overflow ( normal ), one tube is the emissions tube (CA-only..... The only thing different from the other 700's)

Dave

 

Without looking at it, I have to assume that I have the OEM tank. I would like to eliminate the canister but without a way to vent the tank (since I don't have a vented cap) it looks like I will have to leave it in service. I just like to reduce weight on my bikes, it's why I like small displacement machines.

 

The California emissions tube is not in that picture, overall I have six lines;
One gas line with filter - check
Two overflows just above the fuel rail
Three from the vent (I assume) nipples on the front of the carbs.

 

Actually, why couldn't a person remove the canister and route the Evap hose from the tank directly to the extra carb nipple? Or does it have to have the atmospheric hose?

 

the canister has the charcoal in it.

You could put regular carbs on, or cap the carb vent nipples

The tank will be vented if there is nothing on the tank's nipple (unless there is a a one-way valve inside and I don't recall there being one.

Otherwise, cap the tanks port, and then put a regular filler on.

Len is pretty knowledgeable on the calif model stuff, too. I learned about them from him......you could ask him directly.

dave

 

Lest anyone think this project is languishing in Neverland, I have been busy masking non-painted parts and scrubbing, de-rusting and scuffing the paint on the frame and reshooting a coat of gloss black. Frame looks new, and cost next to nothing. As I have a few vacations planned for the next three months, as well as the holidays most of my dosh is accounted for. Once the new paint on the frame has dried up enough, it is time for the engine to return to its place at the table. After that, lets see;
New battery
Exhaust gaskets
Polish & install exhaust
Pull swingarm, service and paint
Wheel bearings
Clean & refill forks
Rebuild master cylinder & calipers
Replace brake lines & fill/bleed
Tires are last so I am not tempted to go riding before the above list is complete.
Once it is rideable, there are little dress-up projects here and there to attend to, replace the rusted hardware on the instrument panels, polish out the corrosion on the rear fender rails, things like that, simple one day kind of deals that won't take the bike off the road.
Later I can paint the bodywork. One thing the PO did right on this bike was he had the saddle recovered a couple years ago, and it still looks new. I have never in all my years bought a bike more than 10 years old that didn't have a split or tear in the saddle, so this is a nice change for me.

 

Been fiddling with a few things and working on some other projects, but this has not gone by the wayside. In fact, while I have been at work today (Saturday, gotta love it) I built a rack for wet-setting the carbs. The fuel tank was a leftover from an old go-kart project that I have kept on the shelf for no good reason up until now. I have the original intake boots from the scrap engine that I will bolt to the lower crosspiece, and viola! As I work in construction, all this material is lying around at my work, so other than a little bit of effort to cut to size and assemble this was all free.