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What did you do to your Yamaha today?

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by Cutlass84, Jun 4, 2007.

  1. cruzin

    cruzin Active Member

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    Hi thanks for the reply, I used the coated wire to pull the shim and found it to be a y285 shim. My thinnest feeler gauge is.0015 th. .04mm. and it would not go between them. Any suggestions on what I should get for this valve? thanks again.
     
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    Today:

    Got stuff reassembled and the LED strips on for the tail/brake light till I can get my nicer unit in. Brings the back profile of the bike up a lot, not having the fender curving down and the big old crusty tail light there. Really happy with it.

    Painted up my new found engine crash guards too, used caliper paint as it's pretty much indestructible once baked on.
     

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    Wintersdark Well-Known Member

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    You'll need a shim that'll give you space to measure - hence my recommendation above to just grab a 200 (2.00mm) shim. $8.95 from Chacal (link above) and it'll definitely get you to a measurable point.
     
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    I converted all the measurements I wrote down to MM and it looks like all my clearances are to tight. This may cost more than I paid for the bike. What does one do when something like this happens?
     
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    Was windy and not real warm . Cut yard and weed eated ... after finshing that looked at bike so started polishing on the covers and cleaning . Would have liked to ride but feel good that I did get something done.
     
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    Why would it cost more than you paid for your bike? Shims at $9 each, you may be able to reuse them(write what shims you have in each spot down, then write down what you need in each spot - then you've got a list of what you have, what you need.

    16 valves total, 16 shims, brand new from Chacal would be $143.20 as a worst case scenario. It's extremely unlikely you'd have none usable, though.

    Also, Hogfiddles I believe runs a shim pool(but I have no idea how that works), so you may want to contact him.
     
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    Finished rebuilding my forks. Need to get dust seals, then I can reinstall forks, wheel, and reinstall rebuilt calipers / brakes. Getting close to being on the road! This was my last major step before getting her rolling.
     
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    I searched the post for the method to buy one of these 2.00 shims but I did not see how to buy one. I will try looking in the for sale items, thanks.
    I went ahead and pulled all my shims and recorded what I have now. I can move one shim to fix one valves clearance but all the rest need different shims.
    Mine is only a 8 valve motor.
     
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    Wintersdark Well-Known Member

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    Start a conversation with Chacal. He'll be able to get you hooked up. You can do this from your username in the top right corner of the page, then going to Conversations > Start New Conversation. He's awesome, very helpful, and knows exactly what you need when doing this.
     
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    Upper right corner for Chacal just click on it.
    Only 8 valves geez I recently did my valves and I have 20 and 19 needed to be replaced. Sometime you just got to pay.
    http://www.maxim-x.com/notes.html
    here is another site that has a shim conversion table where you just plug in your numbers and it tells you what you need.
    There is also a lot of good information to be had.
     
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    Try your local Yamaha dealer my local dealer sold me the 3 shims I needed for 9.00$ each .Or I think hogfiddles has a shim pool , or try xj4ever .
     
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    Cold and rainy all weekend. Lubricated cables with the Motion Pro cable lube tool that just came. Took some fiddling to get it adjusted right, and it makes a mess at the user end, but it does the job.

    Clutch lever has no more "creaking" and pulls really easy. Throttle cable was smooth, but now it should remain so.

    Weather cleared this morning, drove to work. However, may have to leave it home at lunch as rain forecasted again for later this afternoon. AARRG.
     
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    going to re-check my shim measurements. I may have made mistake.
     
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    Remember you may be able to cover a lot of changes with the "shim shuffle" - i.e. make the changes in an appropriate order so that when you take one out, you move it to another to bring it to spec, then move that to another, etc. The most I've ever had to buy at a given valve adjustment session is 2.

    To do this, you need to start by not only measuring clearance, but pulling each shim to see what is in there. After that, you keep records for the future of what shim is where.
     
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    Measure in metric, do it all in metric. Converting around is introducing points where error can easily happen. A set of metric feelers is like $5.
     
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    YES!!
     
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    Took my carbs to church on Sunday. Let them soak in chem dip for a few hours before giving them a good scrub in water to remove all the chemicals. Ordered a new set of pilot air jets from chacal due to the PO being a little too aggressive with them.

    Bike is almost complete.
     
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    I re checked my findings on my shims and this is what I find. When I checked the first time after reading the how to here and left the cam lobe up 90* a lot of my measurements were out of spec, but if I start checking the clearances right after the lobe leaves the shim most of the time I can get it to check in spec somewhere as I rotate the cam around. Example on my #1 exh at the lobe 90* from shim I get .10mm which is out of spec but if I check at different places as that cam rotates I did find .13mm which is in spec, Do I dare use these newly found within spec measurements I found. Original checks found only 1 within spec, 2nd time I did the check only 2 were out of specs.
     
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    No.

    Measure the clearance from the shim to the cam when the cam lobe is 180 degrees - pointing directly away - from the shim. They're machined to be measured in this way, and the measurement from other parts of the cam may not be correct.

    It's entirely possible that the PO did it incorrectly, and that you'd get "perfect" clearances measuring from whereever he measured from, but the manual is very clear about measuring when the lobe is 180 degrees from the shim, so do it from there.
     
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    @cruzin welcome to the site. Its not my job to play moderator but you have turned this thread into your personal valve adjustment thread. You should start a new thread for your bike. This one is meant to be more of a general interest thread.

    FYI I was able to find xj shims at the local BMW dealer. They still use them for current BMW models where as Yamaha does not.
     
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    Found out that my "X" has a bar weight....I only found one and the fish says there are two. What is the deal with this weight and what have others done to replace them? Thanks...
     
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    ok thanks. that answers my question about the lobe position. Ill let this die here in this thread as was mentioned to me that its not the place for me to go through my valve setup. not a problem ill be starting my own thread.

     
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    what do you mean a BAR WEIGHT ?
     
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    dowski68 Well-Known Member

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    Can't believe that I am going to share this ROTFLMAO-
    Pulled in my parking area was backing up and I stepped on the flipping cats tail and proceeded to fall right the Freak over! well about 45 degrees till the wood pile caught me. No damage other then my ego/pride
    When I got sorta off the bike I was pinned between the bike and the wood at knee level so I had no leverage to lift without the possibility of straining my back.
    So what did I do I started to chuckle as I dialed my wife's number to ask for assistance and then it was over as she gazed at her pinned husband l slightly laughing as she says you know your never going to live this down and oh let me get a pic real quick don't go anywhere as I looked at as if I could move.
    Fun Times everybody
    unfortunately the picture was a blurr or I am sure she would had it enlarged and framed for the garage.
     
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    dowski68 Well-Known Member

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    I guess I never noticed cause I had someone else put the new grips on for me. Guess when I need a new pair I will look.
     
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    MattiThundrrr Not a guru

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    ...and you would've posted it here!
     
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    dowski68 Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely under what not to do- ;)
     
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    Put 200k on 20170522_193737.jpg
     
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    dowski68 Well-Known Member

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    Very nice picture. I appreciate the way you used the backdrop of the water to enhance the beautiful machine you have there.

    I just noticed that your gloves are more suited for the cold weather. It's still cold in Nova Scotia ?
     
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    It's always cold.in Nova Scotia :)
     
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    MattiThundrrr Not a guru

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    Naw, there were 15 minutes that one time...
    But seriously, if you can get you and your bike to Nova Scotia, you will find the best costal roads on the world. I believe they have the most photographed spot in Canada there. Simply gorgeous!
     
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    Lol I was going to say the same thing. :)
     
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    Stared at it wistfully. 100kph winds today :(
     
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    just face it into the wind and sit on it almost like riding it;)
     
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    That ought to do it :) Get my boy out to make motorcycle noises while I'm at it :)
     
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    that's the wind coming off the Ocean??
     
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    nah, I'm in Calgary, Alberta. It's a thousand kms to the ocean from here :)

    Just a prairie wind storm.
     
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    Today: Baked my new (to me) engine guards (doused 'em in caliper paint a couple days ago) and installed them. Now at least I know if something goes sideways (literally) I won't damage the engine. Looking forward to being able to get more aggressive in cornering without so much fear.

    Gotta find myself some forward pegs to clamp onto them once I've got a few bucks to spare.
     
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    Finally stopped raining around here (for now). Went for a quick ride up to Tomahawk on the county roads . . . Two turkeys and a Sandhill Crane entering the pavement. Both turned around as I approached. Must be the bunny even when there are no autos around.
     
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    After two days when bike sitts in garage i try it to start but he didnt like to run smooth,so i take carbs down and found that-pics
    I earlier clean carbs but not so deep-was my mistake,sorry bike,hehhhe. Now i will clean it deep in his heart.

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    One more thing one of this fall out when in destroy upside of carb,is normal or not.tnx
     
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    yes that part falls out when carbs are upside down.
     
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    Ok kul,i think was something wrong,soo another i must clean so that can fall the same,soory i dont have here in slovenia some good clinic for carbs.is better if you do alone ,i try in different service here for other bike and always was something wrong.eehhhh not worth speak abouth.can you pls tell me off what i must too be carefull or what is most important.tnx friends
     
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    Worked on rebuilding the starter. Thinking I need a replacement. Anyone know how I can get ahold of a xj550 starter?
     
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    ebay or chacal start a conversation with him.
     
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    I know that I am going for a ride other then to work or school. Time to get out and stretch her legs a bit- Freeway/ back roads/ goal one tank of fuel used in its' entirety.
    Oh I can go back to the salvage yard and purchase a set of saddle bags that currently are on a 86 Virago. All Leather stiff sides will post a picture later today if they are still there.
    Be safe its Friday and everybody in a cage is in a hurry to go somewhere!
     
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    You know it's a good say when you see this sticker:
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    Now, about that TODO list. Better stain and install that baseboard moulding so my wife can have the house in order, THEN I can re-build the gas cap.
     
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    Yes indeed the list wife provides needs to be completed before daddy can play.
     

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